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Hypo
08-08-2016, 11:49 PM
Hal Jordan And The Green Lantern Corps #2 Preview (http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/1018223-exclusive-preview-hal-jordan-green-lantern-corps-2)
Writer: Robert Venditti
Artist: Rafa Sandoval

http://i.imgur.com/ah3sGw7.jpg?1

"Chosen"
08-09-2016, 02:10 PM
man.. the art here looks so good

EmeraldGladiator
08-09-2016, 02:17 PM
I must admit, I am enjoying this version of Hal. Despite the fact he is my all time favorite DC character, his repeated eras of navel gazing and self doubt get extremely old and tiring. This Hal seems confident and driven. I don't like the characterization that Hal is 'Stan Spontaneous' and never has or respects a plan either. It makes it seem like he is just incredibly lucky. I prefer to think of him as someone who never has paralysis from analysis but can come up with a successful plan on the fly. It will also set up an interesting dynamic between he and John once the gang is back together. John the more structured marine/architect and Hal the more less blueprint more dive in type. Though if that is the dynamic they are setting up where does that leave Guy? Is Hal the midpoint between the two extremes or is Guy just Hal +5.

JohnMc
08-09-2016, 06:41 PM
I must admit, I am enjoying this version of Hal. Despite the fact he is my all time favorite DC character, his repeated eras of navel gazing and self doubt get extremely old and tiring. This Hal seems confident and driven. I don't like the characterization that Hal is 'Stan Spontaneous' and never has or respects a plan either. It makes it seem like he is just incredibly lucky. I prefer to think of him as someone who never has paralysis from analysis but can come up with a successful plan on the fly. It will also set up an interesting dynamic between he and John once the gang is back together. John the more structured marine/architect and Hal the more less blueprint more dive in type. Though if that is the dynamic they are setting up where does that leave Guy? Is Hal the midpoint between the two extremes or is Guy just Hal +5.

Considering some of the previews state that Guy is missing it look like they're going to kick that can down the road for a while.

W.West
08-10-2016, 11:42 AM
Issue out. Poll up. Review here (http://bit.ly/2bftf10).

EmeraldGladiator
08-10-2016, 09:44 PM
I love this week, when my two favorite DC books come out, HJ&tGLC and Detective Comics.

Kane2814
08-11-2016, 04:03 AM
I must admit, I am enjoying this version of Hal. Despite the fact he is my all time favorite DC character, his repeated eras of navel gazing and self doubt get extremely old and tiring. This Hal seems confident and driven.

Agree 100%. Great to see Hal kickin' butt and takin' names. It's a little undermined by the fact that Hal's looking for the Corps and we all know they're relatively fine,(the survivors anyway) just licking their wounds and getting their bearings. I also have to wonder if we're going to actually find out what happened to the Corps. I feel like that won't be addressed, and we'll just be dealing with Sinestro but I would like to see that tied up before this is all over.

It's interesting that the Corps is severely depleted and having trouble replenishing its ranks. I wonder where this is going...?

Loved seeing Sinestro's reaction to Hal - despite being a "disappointment," Sinestro's lost to Hal time and again and his instructions to tell his corpsmen to retreat shows that Sinestro still knows to not underestimate him.

Venditti's scenes with Sinestro really show how much he really understands Sinestro post-Johns. While I got tired of seeing him, Johns did a great job building up Sinestro as a nuanced villain whose motivations you could understand, even if you would never agree with his actions. Much better than the one-dimensional villains of old. I like that Soranik got the last jab in their scene together.

I wonder why Guy needs a backpack - GL's never needed one before.... I get that the visual is to impress upon us that he's going out on his own, alone with just the resources on his back, etc... but it just seems a bit silly.

Overall, a great start and it's raising my hopes up. So many stories that start out well end with a dud, but I am once again hopeful that this will not be the case.

buffalorock
08-11-2016, 01:13 PM
I love this week, when my two favorite DC books come out, HJ&tGLC and Detective Comics.

Turned into my favorite week as well, but for me its Flash and Hal/GLC

I liked this one, even got my buddy and my brother to sub to it as well.

Venditti is trying to win some people back and I'm glad it's working(at least for me)

EmeraldGladiator
08-11-2016, 03:46 PM
This is good stuff, the kind of GL stories that I enjoy, Hal with a sense of clarity and drive, going up against a well thought out and powerful antagonist. One of my favorite Sinestro Corps members, Slushh (always loved the character design) made an appearance and there was some good interaction between Sinestro and his daughter. Good character moments for Guy and John. The only thing missing was an appearance by Arisia but ah well. It's not reinventing the wheel or anything but a very solid to good issue.

Star-Lantern
08-11-2016, 10:58 PM
Good character moments for Guy and John

Just to add my thoughts about that for anyone who may be curious about John Stewart's role in this series, nothing in this series is worth a John Stewart fan's time/money.

Hypo
08-12-2016, 01:25 AM
Green Lantern post-Rebirth > Green Lantern pre-Rebirth.

W.West
08-12-2016, 01:46 AM
Just to add my thoughts about that for anyone who may be curious about John Stewart's role in this series, nothing in this series is worth a John Stewart fan's time/money.

We've had all of two issues and no resemblance of a major plot for ANY character besides Sinestro. I think its a bit early to start calling it a waste.

Star-Lantern
08-12-2016, 04:41 AM
We've had all of two issues and no resemblance of a major plot for ANY character besides Sinestro. I think its a bit early to start calling it a waste.

Well, of course, I can only go off of what I've seen (which is actually three issues, and admittedly, I only skim them because I don't buy the book, but I have read all of John's parts). I don't know if the book would be a waste generally, but from a John Stewart fan's point of view, I think it has been so far, and I reckon it will be in general. I'm confident Venditti will try to do 'something' with John Stewart, but I'm quite skeptical it will be anything the character's fanbase in general will actually appreciate, especially since Venditti has so many other things he can concentrate on that will likely get much more attention. And my feeling going from what I've seen so far and the solicits is that it will probably be so far down the line that many of John's fans will have lost all interest at that point (if they ever had any).

I only mentioned that at all since someone says John Stewart has good moments (he does not, in my opinion), and I've read elsewhere that people were curious and concerned about what role he would play in this series.

Mister Ed
08-12-2016, 02:14 PM
Green Lantern post-Rebirth > Green Lantern pre-Rebirth.

Are you talking this current Rebirth, or the original GL Rebirth that brought back Hal and the Corps?

If the latter, and if you are talking about immediately pre and post, I'll agree. I certainly don't agree with that as a blanket statement about ALL GL pre vs. post that Rebirth.

That is often the case with a major shakeup, IMHO. Even though I thought ET itself was terrible, and went too far in trashing all that came before, I still thought GL immediately post-ET was better than GL immediately pre-ET.

If you are talking about this most current Rebirth....I don't think we've seen enough to say for sure that is the case yet, but I'm trying to be optimistic.

"Chosen"
08-12-2016, 03:09 PM
He's saying the 3 issues we've gotten are better than the pre-rebirth run we just had with Venditti and Tan

Mister Ed
08-12-2016, 03:51 PM
I just don't think we've seen enough to say that for sure. I know I haven't. (But I haven't seen the latest issue yet..)

"Chosen"
08-12-2016, 04:25 PM
Maybe not for you but I agree with Hypo. We're definitely on a better spot so far.

Kane2814
08-13-2016, 01:41 AM
Maybe not for you but I agree with Hypo. We're definitely on a better spot so far.

Well, when Venditti first started the title I had dropped the book after three issues, and I'm excited by the new title so I would agree that this run is better.

BLACK HAND
08-15-2016, 01:26 PM
I'm enjoying this run better already over the "Renegade" stuff.

EmeraldGladiator
08-15-2016, 08:06 PM
Better than anything he has done for Green Lantern so far.

CeltiC5-27
08-16-2016, 09:04 PM
This series so far is WAY better than Venditti's initial run on GL. And it definitely helps that the art is a big improvement over Tan's. I really like Rafa's style!

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/D8C0C392-8473-47DC-BB8F-76AE6140D8F6_zpsyx0rlc6e.jpeg

Big Daddy Dave Skywalker
08-17-2016, 01:31 AM
I havent picked up any GL comics in a few weeks and have been trying to stay strong on dropping them. Tonight I broke down and bought the issues I had missed while at a newbury comics on vacation. I read GLC #2 on the stand and found it surprisingly decent. The art was a hundred times better than Tan and it actually felt like GL again...at least enough. The story much better in this one issue than anything the same writer did in the previous run. So, maybe I'll stick it out a bit longer and see where it goes.

I am so weak...

Hypo
08-17-2016, 01:35 AM
To be fair you held out a lot longer than I thought you would. :p

Big Daddy Dave Skywalker
08-17-2016, 02:29 AM
I hate you.

Space Cop
08-17-2016, 03:25 AM
I'm telling you, though, I quit before. It's a serious hassle to catch up if you do that and could you really guarantee you wouldn't change your mind?

Anyway, the comic IS better, so you should be reading it.

Hypo
08-17-2016, 12:41 PM
I hate you.

http://i.imgur.com/tyVOL.gif

BLACK HAND
08-17-2016, 02:21 PM
This series so far is WAY better than Venditti's initial run on GL. And it definitely helps that the art is a big improvement over Tan's. I really like Rafa's style!

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/D8C0C392-8473-47DC-BB8F-76AE6140D8F6_zpsyx0rlc6e.jpeg

I agree that helps a lot too! So sick of Tan's art.

EmeraldGladiator
08-17-2016, 04:57 PM
not to hate on Tan but he has me thinking about just collecting the Jim Lee /Fabok Suicide Squad issues because their style rocks and skipping the Tan ones. Not really a SS fan per se but can easily be tempted into buying books drawn by Jim Lee and Fabok.

EmeraldGladiator
08-17-2016, 05:02 PM
Not to complain about the ratings because people are entitled to their own opinions but 5 stars? That is reserved for the Sinestro Corps Wars, Great Darkness Saga and COIE, this run is good so far but no need for hyperbole. Then again for some it might be the best book ever. Hey who knows how good this run can be but we might need to pump the brakes. Then again maybe it is being graded on a curve compared to the new 52 run in which case, maybe, lol.

"Chosen"
08-17-2016, 07:11 PM
Not to complain about the ratings because people are entitled to their own opinions but 5 stars? That is reserved for the Sinestro Corps Wars, Great Darkness Saga and COIE, this run is good so far but no need for hyperbole. Then again for some it might be the best book ever. Hey who knows how good this run can be but we might need to pump the brakes. Then again maybe it is being graded on a curve compared to the new 52 run in which case, maybe, lol.

i don't think rating a book 5 stars is saying that's it's up there with the books you listed, it means that it satisfies the reader in the way they want to be. every opinion is different.

Space Cop
08-17-2016, 09:22 PM
Not to complain about the ratings because people are entitled to their own opinions but 5 stars? That is reserved for the Sinestro Corps Wars, Great Darkness Saga and COIE, this run is good so far but no need for hyperbole. Then again for some it might be the best book ever. Hey who knows how good this run can be but we might need to pump the brakes. Then again maybe it is being graded on a curve compared to the new 52 run in which case, maybe, lol.

i don't think rating a book 5 stars is saying that's it's up there with the books you listed, it means that it satisfies the reader in the way they want to be. every opinion is different.

Yeah, I tend to think of it the way EmeraldGladiator does, though I guess the other way would be more sane practical. I generally rank comics (like I do movies on Netflix) with 3 stars. 2 means I didn't like it. 1 means I hated it. 4 I would think of as in the range of best GL comics (SCW, Hard Travelin' Heroes). 5, to me, is only the best comics of all time; perfect masterworks like Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns, and Sandman. This means I don't stray much beyond 3 stars here. I just can't rank a comic 5 stars or a movie 5 stars without immediately comparing them mentally to Watchmen or Citizen Kane.

"Chosen"
08-18-2016, 12:47 AM
I judge things on my own and not compare them to other stories, movies, etc

Space Cop
08-18-2016, 01:19 AM
I judge things on my own and not compare them to other stories, movies, etc

That's one of those things that sounds great, but I personally find hard to do. And most people I know seem to automatically compare ("How was the new Stephen King book?" "Oh, not bad; it's no Stand, but it's not his worst either").

But even buying the blank-slate/no-history concept and leaving classic comics out of it, I still would think 5 stars means perfection. And I'd want it to be that way because theoretically what if the next issue was such a perfect classic? Shouldn't my rating reflect that it was the best it could be? Why wouldn't it be rated any higher than the previous month?

But all of this is academic. It's not like we're paid to review for the New Yorker or something. And your method is probably more helpful to those who scan the surveys here.

Mister Ed
08-18-2016, 12:29 PM
Well, I read this issue. Pretty good. Still not much actually happening yet, so I'm not sure I can compare the quality of the storylines pre- and post-Rebirth in any meaningful way, but the characters seem to be written well.

Locomoco808
08-18-2016, 09:33 PM
I wanna see what actually happens when Stewart and Jordan reunite.

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If you guys read through the Lost Army series, in the Old Universe's Source Wall, there was a potential to go back and Stewart glimpses "renegade" Hal in the trench coat with the gauntlet on sealing the break in the Wall.

How do they reconcile that? Will they?? I know it was a different writer on the series but still, I sure hope this plot point is handled correctly.

Big Daddy Dave Skywalker
08-19-2016, 01:09 AM
I judge things on my own and not compare them to other stories, movies, etc

That implies your own standard is all over the place. The problem with 1-5 star ratings is nobody understands how to use them, or they get too enthusiastic right after reading the issue. These are like workplace yearly reviews. 1 means terrible, 2 means it needs work to be at an acceptable level, 3 means you did your job, solidly, but nothing above and beyond. 4 is exceeding expecations, and 5 means its so good its bringing the medium to another level.

I look at 3 stars as the creative team did their job and the issue was worth my money. Nothing spectacular, but solidly done. When people rate every run of the mill issue 5 stars, there's nowhere to go but down. I just can't put HJ&TGLC #2 on the same level as Watchmen, Sandman, Moore's Swamp Thing or DKR.

Also, 3 stars is nothing to be ashamed of. I think some of us are convinced its some kind of blemish when nothing could be further from the truth.

Hypo
08-19-2016, 02:23 AM
not to hate on Tan but he has me thinking about just collecting the Jim Lee /Fabok Suicide Squad issues because their style rocks and skipping the Tan ones. Not really a SS fan per se but can easily be tempted into buying books drawn by Jim Lee and Fabok.

Billy Tan was on Green Lantern, Phillip Tan will be on Suicide Squad. Fabok is only doing the backup for issue #1.

EmeraldGladiator
08-19-2016, 10:13 PM
Thanks Hypo, didn't realize that. Jae Lee is a lot different than Jim Lee, lol, so not all Tan's are the same.

Kane2814
08-20-2016, 03:53 PM
If you guys read through the Lost Army series, in the Old Universe's Source Wall, there was a potential to go back and Stewart glimpses "renegade" Hal in the trench coat with the gauntlet on sealing the break in the Wall.

How do they reconcile that? Will they?? I know it was a different writer on the series but still, I sure hope this plot point is handled correctly.

I'd be more interested to know what happened to Krona and (to a much lesser degree Relic), and the new weapons many of the GL's had taken up between "Lost Army" and "Edge of Oblivion" but I doubt it. The BIG thing is, will we find out what took them all in the first place??? Maybe the GLC will find out before they meet up with Hal again so the Hal/John reunion won't be hindered by that kind of baggage.

Big Daddy Dave Skywalker
08-20-2016, 11:02 PM
At this point, I don't want to see anything from TLA/EOO, or volume 5. Move on and move forward. I don't think there is any material there so good they need to keep revisiting it or trying to tie up loose ends.

The only moving back I want to see involves fixing Oa and bringing back the real Guardians.