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Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 07:09 PM
Is anyone in the practice of getting over on stores?

Meaning buying something, using it for a bit and then returning it?

I remember The Simpsons episode:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/files/2010/10/SimpsonsChrisHansen1.jpg


Homer Simpson got caught red-handed by NBC News correspondent Chris Hansen on “The Simpsons.” Homer’s father, Abe Simpson, left each member of the Simpson clan $50 to spend on whatever they wanted. Homer got the idea to purchase a bunch of items he couldn’t afford and then return them the next day.

But when he tried to follow through on his plot, Hansen busted him on “To Catch a Credit Whore.”


I've seen DC toys that are part of the "Connect and Collect" Series on store pegs with the missing "C & C" parts. Appearently there are people buying the figure and returning without the C&C part.

And getting back to Homer Simpson, I think what he did in that episode is shady and unethical. It's like renting something and not paying any rental fee. Yes, you're getting over, but it's bad karma.

Robinson
03-17-2011, 07:24 PM
When I worked at sears I would here of people doing it with big items like tvs and shit during football season and for the superbowl especially.

Kuhan
03-17-2011, 07:26 PM
I did it once. Last Halloween, I dressed as Brock from Pokémon (I don't know of any pictures, but I may be able to find some). I didn't have the proper clothes, so I dropped by Wal-Mart to find an orange t-shirt and a green vest. While I bought the $5 orange shirt and never wore it again, the vest was around $30, and I would never wear it (it looked kind of like Marty McFly's vest from BTTF, but lamer). So I bought it, left the tags on, wore it for the night, and returned it the next day.

Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 07:30 PM
When I worked at sears I would here of people doing it with big items like tvs and shit during football season and for the superbowl especially.


I'm curious. What did you think of people that did this?

I did it once. Last Halloween, I dressed as Brock from Pokémon (I don't know of any pictures, but I may be able to find some). I didn't have the proper clothes, so I dropped by Wal-Mart to find an orange t-shirt and a green vest. While I bought the $5 orange shirt and never wore it again, the vest was around $30, and I would never wear it (it looked kind of like Marty McFly's vest from BTTF, but lamer). So I bought it, left the tags on, wore it for the night, and returned it the next day.

I see. Did you feel you did anything unethical?

Kuhan
03-17-2011, 07:33 PM
I see. Did you feel you did anything unethical?eh, a bit, but it's Wal-Mart, the cesspool of unethical, so there's that.

Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 07:35 PM
Ha hah ha. I like that you felt some ethical challenges.

However, if it wasn't Wal Mart would you do it?

Kuhan
03-17-2011, 07:43 PM
well, I think that if I went somewhere else, I'd find something a bit cheaper and/or more wearable. The question doesn't really work in that regard.

Robinson
03-17-2011, 07:46 PM
It wasnt my commisions being affected so i didnt really care. Its kind of a dick thing to do.


I've mostly been of the "if i cant afford it, then i dont need it" frame of mind.

Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 07:47 PM
In that regard no.

But, it's a more of a general sense of the question and personal ethics anyway.

Homer Simpson has long been a metaphor for the ills and unethical methords of American society.

Sylent_Asassin
03-17-2011, 07:48 PM
Man, I could write a book on this kind of thing.

Back in the day, I used to go to Target and buy clearanced items and return them to TRU for Geoffrey dollars. It was an EASY way to make money. Por ejemplo, go to Target and buy clearanced toys for $3 and return them to TRU for $12. Use the Geoffrey dollars to buy video games (or systems) and sell them on eBay. "Mo money!" Because of me, they made it so there's a limt to returns per year without a receipt. I call it the "Sylent Rule."

Years ago, I worked with some guys that could get me free computer and printer accessories like Ink cartridges. They would order a shit load for me and I would return them to Target and get gift cards which I used for video games to sell. "MO MONEY!!" Shortly after, they also adopted the 'limiting returns without a receipt' rule... and NO ELECTRONICS returned without a receipt.

I play Yugioh and the most sought after cards are rare, expensive and hard to find. Using the advice of fellow players, I invested in a Gram pocket scale which can be used (for drugs and) to scale out the holographic cards. While not illegal, it's unethical. By doing this, I got the cards I needed to top a Regional tournament. "MO MONEY!!!"

That is all I will divulge.

Doing things like this is probably why I don't get good customer service, although I was always polite, well-mannered and never rude to anyone. I'm pretty sure I've already received my comeupance.

Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 07:50 PM
It wasnt my commisions being affected so i didnt really care. Its kind of a dick thing to do.


I've mostly been of the "if i cant afford it, then i dont need it" frame of mind.

That's exactly my though. And I think it is a dick move as well. I use to work at Macy's and people would try to return stinky clothes all the time. I would talk to the people in the lingere department and they would tell me countless stories of used items trying to be returned.

Kuhan
03-17-2011, 07:54 PM
I play Yugioh and the most sought after cards are rare, expensive and hard to find. Using the advice of fellow players, I invested in a Gram pocket scale which can be used (for drugs and) to scale out the holographic cards. While not illegal, it's unethical. By doing this, I got the cards I needed to top a Regional tournament. "MO MONEY!!!"

I did this. I don't find this one as unethical as some others. I'm just using the system to my advantage. I have a scale, I can use it to do this. Why not? How is it different from some other methods buyers employ for other stuff? And hey, sometimes the cards I pulled sucked. I sold them for a profit. That's how the stupid system works in Yugioh

Sylent_Asassin
03-17-2011, 07:55 PM
That's exactly my though. And I think it is a dick move as well. I use to work at Macy's and people would try to return stinky clothes all the time. I would talk to the people in the lingere department and they would tell me countless stories of used items trying to be returned.

That's freaking nasty!

A friend of mine works at Costco and she told me that people buy HD TV's, pull the ol' switcharoo with their OLD set and return them.

Sylent_Asassin
03-17-2011, 07:58 PM
I did this. I don't find this one as unethical as some others. I'm just using the system to my advantage. I have a scale, I can use it to do this. Why not? How is it different from some other methods buyers employ for other stuff? And hey, sometimes the cards I pulled sucked. I sold them for a profit. That's how the stupid system works in Yugioh

I haven't scaled in years (since Light of Destruction) because I'd probably get bad Karma from it... and yeah, scaling is working the system since the game isn't balanced. Most think Yugioh is a kids game, but it's a game for people with money... and the people with the most expensive cards usually win.

Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 07:59 PM
Something that happens at Macy's where folks would try and return some counterfeit Levi jeans with orange tags on the back pocket label.

One of the worse things I found on the sale floor while working at Macy's was a dirty diaper left under a pile of shirt during a Christmas sale.

Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 08:00 PM
I haven't scaled in years (since Light of Destruction) because I'd probably get bad Karma from it... and yeah, scaling is working the system since the game isn't balanced. Most think Yugioh is a kids game, but it's a game for people with money... and the people with the most expensive cards usually win.

Doesn't like much of a fair game then. It sounds like the American legal system.

Kuhan
03-17-2011, 08:04 PM
I haven't scaled in years (since Light of Destruction) because I'd probably get bad Karma from it... and yeah, scaling is working the system since the game isn't balanced. Most think Yugioh is a kids game, but it's a game for people with money... and the people with the most expensive cards usually win.
I scaled back at Duelist Pack Aster (was that his name? The one with all the Destiny Heroes) I got the two rarest ones and immediately sold them for $60 a pop
Doesn't like much of a fair game then. It sounds like the American legal system.

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It's true too

bOB spelled backwards
03-17-2011, 08:06 PM
Is anyone in the practice of getting over on stores?

Meaning buying something, using it for a bit and then returning it?

I remember The Simpsons episode:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/files/2010/10/SimpsonsChrisHansen1.jpg




I've seen DC toys that are part of the "Connect and Collect" Series on store pegs with the missing "C & C" parts. Appearently there are people buying the figure and returning without the C&C part.

And getting back to Homer Simpson, I think what he did in that episode is shady and unethical. It's like renting something and not paying any rental fee. Yes, you're getting over, but it's bad karma.

Guilty as charged, as well ... But, haven't done it in a very long time ... I paid my penance for my sins though ... I worked 16+ years in retail management after the last time ...

TheGoatLantern
03-17-2011, 08:09 PM
Had to think about this, but I used my buddies receipt to return my Xbox 360 to a Sam's Club. Had the RROD, took it back and actually made money off of it.

Darth_Primus
03-17-2011, 08:10 PM
Guilty as charged, as well ... But, haven't done it in a very long time ... I paid my penance for my sins though ... I worked 16+ years in retail management after the last time ...

:spritz: yeah, that's karma.

Sylent_Asassin
03-17-2011, 08:12 PM
I scaled back at Duelist Pack Aster (was that his name? The one with all the Destiny Heroes) I got the two rarest ones and immediately sold them for $60 a pop

The last duelist pack I scaled was the one that had Card Trooper. I sold/traded those for $30 a pop.

The current Yugioh set (STON) is great for scaling. There are some high-dollar cards that could make you a good amount of cash.

Sylent_Asassin
03-17-2011, 08:14 PM
Doesn't like much of a fair game then. It sounds like the American legal system.

It's not really a fair game. The people with the most expensive cards normally win. In addition, if you know people, you can influence judges to rule in your favor during tournaments.

chivalrous
03-17-2011, 08:31 PM
In my experience, in the UK you can't return an item without a receipt,except for own-brand items.

CYLON (13)
03-18-2011, 04:15 AM
I don't remember ever doing this myself, but I new a couple of guys that would do this...all day! :spritz:

They would start early in the day and go as long as they could. They would buy new Super Nintendo games at one store (at sale prices) and return them to another store for a larger refund. They did this for a while, I rode along with them on a few of their adventures...interesting.

Zan_Black_Lantern
03-18-2011, 05:52 AM
I can honestly say I have never done this the closest I've done is if I find a variant cover at a book store I'll check the net for values and see if it's worth picking up for once price to make a profit off someone looking for that variant.

Kuhan
03-18-2011, 06:33 AM
The last duelist pack I scaled was the one that had Card Trooper. I sold/traded those for $30 a pop.
Dude, I think you got ripped off. Doesn't Card Trooper go for 60-ish?

Scythe
03-18-2011, 09:52 AM
Never done this, though I have a tradition amongst stores. For some odd reason, whenever there's a grand opening of a store, I have to be the first person ever to use their bathroom for a huge, raging poop. For reals, it started like six years ago when I popped several crapper cherries at a local mall, but back then it was like, one big ka-winky-dink. Then after I realized, it became sort of a hilarious obsession.

bOB spelled backwards
03-18-2011, 01:11 PM
Never done this, though I have a tradition amongst stores. For some odd reason, whenver there's a grand opening of a store, I have to be the first person ever to use their bathroom for a huge, raging poop. For reals, it started like six years ago when I popped several crapper cherries at a local mall, but back then it was like, one big ka-winky-dink. Then after I realized, it became sort of a hilarious obsession.

That's simply POOPtastic !!!

Sylent_Asassin
03-18-2011, 05:38 PM
Dude, I think you got ripped off. Doesn't Card Trooper go for 60-ish?

Nah, it topped at $40. I undersold the cards to move them faster. Considering the pack was only $1, I was really getting over.

Card Trooper now is about $12 for the Ultra rare. They limited the card to 1 per deck several formats ago and raised it to two last format. They also made it a common in some Structure deck.

TheGoatLantern
03-18-2011, 05:46 PM
Nerds. ;)

Sylent_Asassin
03-18-2011, 05:57 PM
LOL! Maybe so, but I don't fit the stereotypical profile. If I walk into a store for a Tournament where the players don't know me, they all have that, "Please don't steal my cards!" look in their eyes.

When I went to Reno last week, I went to the mall and there was a tourney going on in a card shop. I walked in with my 49ers Patrick Willis jersey and the kids in there almost freaked out. Ha ha! FEAR ME!!!

havik
03-18-2011, 06:02 PM
LOL! Maybe so, but I don't fit the stereotypical profile. If I walk into a store for a Tournament where the players don't know me, they all have that, "Please don't steal my cards!" look in their eyes.

When I went to Reno last week, I went to the mall and there was a tourney going on in a card shop. I walked in with my 49ers Patrick Willis jersey and the kids in there almost freaked out. Ha ha! FEAR ME!!!

you big bully

Robinson
03-18-2011, 06:04 PM
they almost freaked out because your a niners fan. Thats all

havik
03-18-2011, 06:05 PM
they almost freaked out because your a niners fan. Thats all

:spritz::spritz:

Sylent_Asassin
03-18-2011, 06:06 PM
I think my having to duck under the doorway to get in the shop might have had something to do with it. ;)

Bad memories from 1994 still lingering, Robinson? :D Steve Young told me to tell you "Hello."

havik
03-18-2011, 06:08 PM
ouch thats rough sylent

Sylent_Asassin
03-18-2011, 06:14 PM
ouch thats rough sylent

:D

Please allow me to relive the glory days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBuGr1pDEEM

Now THAT'S rough. ;)

havik
03-18-2011, 06:16 PM
Damn You!!!!!!!!

Robinson
03-18-2011, 06:17 PM
meh.

I can take solace in the fact that since that 94 game, the chargers have at least accomplished something, not quite the big game just yet, but they've been a bit more productive than dem der niners.

Sylent_Asassin
03-18-2011, 06:18 PM
:D

A performance in a Superbowl that will never be Eclipsed.

Sylent_Asassin
03-18-2011, 06:21 PM
meh.

I can take solace in the fact that since that 94 game, the chargers have at least accomplished something, not quite the big game just yet, but they've been a bit more productive than dem der niners.

:spritz: Really? REALLY?!? What have they accomplished?.. unless you're talking about the individual accomplishments of Merriman and his off-field antics. OR are you talking about melting down in the playoffs every year?

Robinson
03-18-2011, 06:33 PM
:spritz: Really? REALLY?!? What have they accomplished?.. unless you're talking about the individual accomplishments of Merriman and his off-field antics. OR are you talking about melting down in the playoffs every year?

Well lets see since that game the niners have made the playoffs 6 times in 17 years, and making the conference game once, and losing pretty badly in all of the games they lost but 1. And a 8 year stretch of not making the postseason.


And after I looked at the chargers record in the same time frame, they've pretty much been the same way, but more sucessful during the regular season especially within the last 8 years or so.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f320/1bigray/FozzieFacepalm.gif

Darth_Primus
03-18-2011, 06:37 PM
Nerds. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Y8rfED6eo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Y8rfED6eo

havik
03-18-2011, 07:06 PM
Well lets see since that game the niners have made the playoffs 6 times in 17 years, and making the conference game once, and losing pretty badly in all of the games they lost but 1. And a 8 year stretch of not making the postseason.


And after I looked at the chargers record in the same time frame, they've pretty much been the same way, but more sucessful during the regular season especially within the last 8 years or so.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f320/1bigray/FozzieFacepalm.gif

true pllus i take rivers over smith any day

Scythe
03-19-2011, 01:24 AM
That's simply POOPtastic !!!

Right?! That's what I'm saying.

CYLON (13)
03-19-2011, 07:47 AM
I was thinking about this today, I have done some stuff...not recently though.
When I was in my early teens I remember (not returning for a profit, but stealing)...I stole my very first shaving razor, batteries, action figures...what ever I could fit in my pocket! Bad, I know. Just thought I'd share. :wallbang:


I can honestly say I have never done this the closest I've done is if I find a variant cover at a book store I'll check the net for values and see if it's worth picking up for once price to make a profit off someone looking for that variant.

:spritz: That was you? Bastid! :p