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  • To spank or not to spank?

    I'm not big on spanking but this makes me waver in that opinion.

    https://www.facebook.com/IzzyBoii/vi...0316419037634/

  • #2
    Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
    I'm not big on spanking but this makes me waver in that opinion.

    https://www.facebook.com/IzzyBoii/vi...0316419037634/
    Of course, it is demonstrably true that you can not spank and still not have kids that would even CONSIDER behaving like that. The problem there cannot possibly be simply a lack of spanking.

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    • #3
      I remember when I was super little I for some reason got it in my head that it would be cool to stick a fork in a wall outlet to see what happens. My father caught me just before, smacked me in the head and shook me. I learned. But I wonder if simply the horrified look on the face would have been just as effective.

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      • #4
        Have I told you guys the infamous "Ann & Hope" tale of my childhood?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MP-05 View Post
          Have I told you guys the infamous "Ann & Hope" tale of my childhood?
          I don't recall anything by that name, so unless you just happened to mention it without calling it that, then I haven't heard it.

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          • #6
            Then thing is. what if your kid ALREADY acts like that? THEN what do you do? It's very possible that this one has ADHD and that ritalin would help, but if not, I just couldn't put up with that behavior.

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            • #7
              I don't really know smacking the kid would do much for that child.

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              • #8
                No kind of spanking is going to help that kid at this point. This is likely the direct result of lacking discipline during his formative years. Then again, we don't know if he has severe autism or he's supped up on sugar.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sylent_Asassin View Post
                  No kind of spanking is going to help that kid at this point. This is likely the direct result of lacking discipline during his formative years. Then again, we don't know if he has severe autism or he's supped up on sugar.
                  Would an autistic child actually behave like that? I don't know much about autism.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MP-05 View Post
                    Would an autistic child actually behave like that? I don't know much about autism.
                    No, that doesn't look like autism to me. Admittedly, I'm no expert, but autistic kids, while they can act out in SOME of the ways pictured there (noise, physical resistance) the tantrum we're seeing here seems a little too purposeful, deliberately (even if not fully consciously) gauged to get attention and piss off the adult. My impression of autistic kids are that they are more inwardly focused, and something like deliberately pulling down somebody's skirt would never even occur to them as part of a tantrum. They are just reacting to stimuli that they don't like by more generally freaking out (or in some cases shutting down, or exhibiting repetitive behavior or tics).

                    The kid here was on a mission to make his mom (or whatever the relation was) sorry for trying to make him do something he didn't want to do. I don't get the impression that an autistic kid has that kind of thing as a goal, even subconsciously.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MP-05 View Post
                      Would an autistic child actually behave like that? I don't know much about autism.
                      I've never seen one that severe, but they do happen. A good friend of mine has an autistic child, and he had an epic meltdown in the grocery store. He didn't grab and throw anything, though. It was just a loud screaming tantrum and he had to be restrained for his own protection.

                      At a small comic convention, another friend of mine got punched in the head by a tantrum-throwing autistic teenager, who then proceeded to throw himself onto the floor and scream at the top of his lungs. Apparently, he couldn't handle the crowd or something.

                      If you Google "autistic meltdown," you'll see what autistic children are capable of... and I'm not making light of this as there's nothing funny about it. I sympathize for people that have to deal with autistic kids.

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                      • #12
                        Kids with ADHD can be bad too. I had one in my family. You could always tell it when he hadn't had his ritalin yet. Luckily he outgrew the condition as he got older. He's actually pretty sedate now.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sylent_Asassin View Post
                          I've never seen one that severe, but they do happen. A good friend of mine has an autistic child, and he had an epic meltdown in the grocery store. He didn't grab and throw anything, though. It was just a loud screaming tantrum and he had to be restrained for his own protection.

                          At a small comic convention, another friend of mine got punched in the head by a tantrum-throwing autistic teenager, who then proceeded to throw himself onto the floor and scream at the top of his lungs. Apparently, he couldn't handle the crowd or something.

                          If you Google "autistic meltdown," you'll see what autistic children are capable of... and I'm not making light of this as there's nothing funny about it. I sympathize for people that have to deal with autistic kids.
                          Oh, no doubt, autistic meltdowns can be severe and scary, but they are reactions to some trigger, not attempts to manipulate an adult. They are not TRYING to be a problem in retaliation for not getting what they want, they are reacting badly to some stimulus that sets them off. The kid in this video strikes me as more of a manipulative tantrum than an autistic meltdown.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mister Ed View Post
                            Oh, no doubt, autistic meltdowns can be severe and scary, but they are reactions to some trigger, not attempts to manipulate an adult. They are not TRYING to be a problem in retaliation for not getting what they want, they are reacting badly to some stimulus that sets them off. The kid in this video strikes me as more of a manipulative tantrum than an autistic meltdown.
                            Kids with ADHD are capable of acting that way.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
                              Kids with ADHD are capable of acting that way.
                              I'm not as familiar with ADHD kids. Sounds like you have firsthand experience, so I'll take your word for it.

                              Whatever the cause, this kid is throwing a far worse tantrum than I have ever personally witnessed.

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