Pikachu vs Agumon

[TaintedPiffy]

Digimon Savers. Ugh. As a whole, the Digimon cartoons went downhill after Tamers. Frontier and Savers were just...weird. I have low hopes for Xros Wars/Fusion, but I'll wait for to see the whole dub series to pass judgment.

[Booster Beetle]

The Savers line of Agumon is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

[The_Mad_Dragon]

Optionssssssssssssssssssss

[Fearless]

Though, and forgive my ignorance if this was explained in the show, it seems odd that the human is involved at all if the Digimon is fully sentient, capable of making its own decisions, and taking action without guidance from the human.

It makes more sense to have the human around in Pokemon, where so many (though not all) of the beasts seem less than fully sentient, and might be seen to logically require a trainer. (Of course that kind of makes it seem like amped up dog fighting, which IS a bit troublesome. But at least the presence of the human part of the pair makes sense. )

Why are the humans involved at all, in Digimon? (Never seen the show. I have seen Bakugan, another show which paired sentient creatures and humans, and I always wondered why the humans were necessary for the battles in that one.)

Human partners with Digimon because it is only through them that they can achieve a higher level of evolution. In the same way a wild Pokemon would be weaker then a Pokemon being trained, a Digimon without a human partner is significantly weaker then one with a partner. There's some existential "magic of childrens' hopes and dreams" reasoning behind it, but for the sake of this argument since neither party is evolving, a human partner is all but useless.

[Booster Beetle]

Though, and forgive my ignorance if this was explained in the show, it seems odd that the human is involved at all if the Digimon is fully sentient, capable of making its own decisions, and taking action without guidance from the human.

It makes more sense to have the human around in Pokemon, where so many (though not all) of the beasts seem less than fully sentient, and might be seen to logically require a trainer. (Of course that kind of makes it seem like amped up dog fighting, which IS a bit troublesome. But at least the presence of the human part of the pair makes sense. )

Why are the humans involved at all, in Digimon? (Never seen the show. I have seen Bakugan, another show which paired sentient creatures and humans, and I always wondered why the humans were necessary for the battles in that one.)

The humans are needed in the first season because they are the "Digidestined" and only they have the power to get their Partner Digimon to digivolve to defeat the evil Digimon who control the Digital World (Devimon, Myotismon and then the Dark Masters) with these things called Digivices and Crests. Digivices allow the Digimon to go from Rookie form to Champion form i.e. Agumon to Greymon and the Crests allow them to go from Champion to Ultimate i.e. Greymon to MetalGreymon. After about 75% of the first season is done, the two main guys of the group are able to get their Partner Digimon to go from Ultimate to Mega form i.e. MetalGreymon to WarGreymon. Then after saving the Digital World the first group of kids have to go back to Earth. A few years later, a group of 5 kids, 3 new ones, and two from the original series go to the Digital World to save it from the Dark Emperor SPOILER(he later becomes a good guy), who uses a "Dark Digivice" to keep the original Digimon from Digivolving, and they find these Digieggs and discover a new type of Digivolution called "Armor Digivolution" where a Partner Digimon i.e. Veemon can digivolve to a level that pretty much has the some power level as a Champion i.e. Flamedramon. I explain more about what happens in Season 2, but thats basically all you need to know

[Mister Ed]

Though, and forgive my ignorance if this was explained in the show, it seems odd that the human is involved at all if the Digimon is fully sentient, capable of making its own decisions, and taking action without guidance from the human.

It makes more sense to have the human around in Pokemon, where so many (though not all) of the beasts seem less than fully sentient, and might be seen to logically require a trainer. (Of course that kind of makes it seem like amped up dog fighting, which IS a bit troublesome. But at least the presence of the human part of the pair makes sense. )

Why are the humans involved at all, in Digimon? (Never seen the show. I have seen Bakugan, another show which paired sentient creatures and humans, and I always wondered why the humans were necessary for the battles in that one.)

[The_Mad_Dragon]

And fully sapient.

[havik]

agumon wins just because tai doesn't have to tell him what attack to use

[Booster Beetle]

Wait, is this ASH'S Pikachu, or a regular one? Cause' there's more than one of Agumon too.

Ash's Pikachu vs Tai's Agumon

[The_Mad_Dragon]

Wait, is this ASH'S Pikachu, or a regular one? Cause' there's more than one of Agumon too.

[Booster Beetle]

Digimon is similar to Pokemon and yet totally different, i.e. most Digimon can speak English

[Mister Ed]

I always had the impression that Digimon was just a Pokemon knockoff. I don't know if that's actually true, and don't have enough interest to actually check, but that perception makes me want to vote for Pikachu. But, since I can't, as I said, be bothered to check that perception against reality, I think I'll just not vote at all.

[Booster Beetle]

Agumon is ugly.

I demand you take that back, sir!

[W.West]

Agumon is ugly.

[Booster Beetle]

But this fight isn't worth showing the least bit of interest in if you move beyond the second titular character. At that point, it's no longer an issue of Pikachu being better than Agumon: it's an issue of Pikachu being better than his entire evolutionary line.

With him becoming so huge and powerful in comparison to Pikachu, then it's simply stupid to engage in the discussion as a fight; it's only worth would be in personal preference for one or the other.

Sigh you're right