The Doctor Who Thread

[Boosteroo Corpse Trainee Find all posts View Profile Close Boosteroo]

Point. But still, I would be willing to bet money River isn't a time lord.

[Mrt1000son Dark Lord of the Sith Find all posts View Profile Close Mrt1000son]

How do we know for sure River really died in the library? It's entirely possible she'll be resurrected or retrieved in some way

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Her essence was stored, but her physical self was lost. Its not impossible for her essence to be retrieved, but there's no point in wondering about that right now.

[kazzar Guardian Of The Galaxy Find all posts View Profile Close kazzar]

River died in the Library and did not regenerate (she was only saved by the Doctor's briliance). She's not a Time Lord.

Yes but the Doctor would have died if he had done what River had done. If he would have just regenerated then why did River have to do it. There are some things that even a timelord can't regenerate from.

Her essence was stored, but her physical self was lost. Its not impossible for her essence to be retrieved, but there's no point in wondering about that right now.

If you remember the tagline to the recent Christmas Special, Time Can Be Rewritten

How do we know for sure River really died in the library? It's entirely possible she'll be resurrected or retrieved in some way

River did die in the Library, but Time can be rewritten to negate the events of that episode, or something similar. I would like to see them rewrite that episode, like The Doctor goes there to stop it before it even happens. As I believe River is a brilliant addition to the series and should keep her in for as long as possible, like they could write her a story where she gets a pardon to get out of the Stormcage through the Shadow Proclamation or something. But personally, the dynamic the have at the moment is brilliant and the shouldn't mess with it, the should at the very least rewrite time to stop her dying in the Library, maybe they will for the 50th anniversary in 2013

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

There is a 50th anniversary episode coming this season so he might make a appearance.


Sorry to correct, but the 50th anniversary will be in 2013. It premeired November 23, 1963.
If they continue the current split series, it will be the second half of series 8 (this is 6 of the relaunch).


Darth_Andrea

I'd like to see a theatrical big budget feature, myself.

I used to think that. Now, I'm kind of thinking if it went big budget, it'd go Hollywood and lose it's distinct British quality (like even the TV movie did). The one advantage they have is that we didn't see the McCann-Eccleston regeneration so PM's age is not a factor!

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I think the whole "Time Can be Rewritten" thing is going to play more heavily in changing the endgame of the Last Great Time War, rather than anything to do with River... if only because back in series 4, the Doctor had that look on his face when he found out someone (the Dalek) had gotten through into the Time Lock that surrounded the Time War... and then he started fiddling with time in the specials.

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I think the whole "Time Can be Rewritten" thing is going to play more heavily in changing the endgame of the Last Great Time War, rather than anything to do with River... if only because back in series 4, the Doctor had that look on his face when he found out someone (the Dalek) had gotten through into the Time Lock that surrounded the Time War... and then he started fiddling with time in the specials.

Dalek Caan getting through the Time Lock was a complete accident. And the Doctor would never be able to change the events of the Time War, that's why the Time Lock was put in place to begin with, to stop anyone messing with that event. And even if it were possible to get through the Time Lock, it could never be done, as the Doctor is the last of the Time Lords and to go back and change events of the Time War would be changing his own history and he can't do that, as he has stated several times. He can change the history of other people, as shown in The Waters of Mars, but not his own.

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Not to mention is was the passage through the Time Lock that drove Caan insane.
With that said, at some point, Davros would have had to have come back through it, and Rassalon also managed to force a conduit through it by using the Master as an anchor, so there's potential for the Doctor to do something about it... the question is, do we really want him to?

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[QUOTE=Boosteroo;578271]Her essence was stored, but her physical self was lost. Its not impossible for her essence to be retrieved, but there's no point in wondering about that right now.[/QUOTE

If the essence of the Tardis can be put into a human body, then some time in the far future the essence of River could be put into a Timelord body if one could be found.

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If the essence of the Tardis can be put into a human body, then some time in the far future the essence of River could be put into a Timelord body if one could be found.

Oooohh! I like this idea very, very much!! Especially if we can get Neil Gaiman to write it!

[chivalrous Corps Honor Guard Find all posts View Profile Close chivalrous]

If the essence of the Tardis can be put into a human body, then some time in the far future the essence of River could be put into a Timelord body if one could be found.

Putting the TARDIS into a human body (as well as a Timelord's mind into a human body - DoctorDonna) led to both of those bodies self destructing.

Admittedly it would be easier to go the other way but would that mind be able to cope with the sensory overload provided to it by a Timelord's body?
Two hearts, more biological control, [limited] telepathy?

Then there's the problem of Doctor Who becoming as bad as most comics, in that characters are forever coming back to life. Sometimes dead means dead.

It's a nice idea though.

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I don't think it would need to be a Time Lord body. Even if River was a Time Lady (which I don't think she is), she could inhabit a compatible alien body. The master did it in "The Keeper of Trakken."

[chivalrous Corps Honor Guard Find all posts View Profile Close chivalrous]

I don't think it would need to be a Time Lord body. Even if River was a Time Lady (which I don't think she is), she could inhabit a compatible alien body. The master did it in "The Keeper of Trakken."

There's still the ethical problem of what would happen to the original occupier of that body. The Doctor wouldn't do it voluntarily, even if that person were brain damaged and irreparably vegetative.