Do Gamers Need A Bill Of Rights?

[TazzMission Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close TazzMission]

i believe this needed a thread of its own

and imo hell no gamers dont



http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...ill-of-rights/

[myuserid Lantern Hex Find all posts View Profile Close myuserid]

Has is that any different than buying comics on Comixology?

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

I think it would be NICE if there were some kind of legal requirement to have a plan in place for customers to be able to still use the items they purchased even if the company they purchased them from goes away, but I kind of doubt that's going to happen any time soon, if at all.

[TazzMission Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close TazzMission]

I think it would be NICE if there were some kind of legal requirement to have a plan in place for customers to be able to still use the items they purchased even if the company they purchased them from goes away, but I kind of doubt that's going to happen any time soon, if at all.

its not good mainly because this will have gamers demand the creators to change what the game is if they ( consumers) dont like it

look at mass effect 3 for example.... yea the endings werent perfect but i sure as hell dont need to cry like a bitch and file a complaint to the ftc

yea i like the new extended cut but imo the devs didnt owe anybody anything


and it disgusts me on how gamers have the nerve to cry bitch moan on how the developers lied through advertising etc etc

you may think im crazy for being a conspiracy theorist but ed the fans i have encountered made me look normal

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

Well that depends on what's IN such a "bill of rights". I think it is silly to think it should include anything resembling a "right" to be happy with the ending of a story. The right to still be able to play a game I paid for if the company I bought it from goes out of business would be nice, though. That's the only aspect I'd be really interested in. I'm not even too fussed about DRM in general terms, just the specifics where it might interfere with that ability.

[TazzMission Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close TazzMission]

Well that depends on what's IN such a "bill of rights". I think it is silly to think it should include anything resembling a "right" to be happy with the ending of a story. The right to still be able to play a game I paid for if the company I bought it from goes out of business would be nice, though. That's the only aspect I'd be really interested in. I'm not even too fussed about DRM in general terms, just the specifics where it might interfere with that ability.

i still think its stupid honestly

[Razorgod Anti-Monitor Find all posts View Profile Close Razorgod]

It might be nice to have something in place to prevent companies like Sony radically changing their ToS or even to eliminate features that were marketed for their products.

I am of course talking specifically about how a required update eliminated PS3 from running on Linux and their addition to the ToS that prevents a user from signing onto a class action lawsuit against Sony. MS has a few good examples too, just not quite as many as Sony does...

[Zan_Black_Lantern Senior Corps Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zan_Black_Lantern]

I think personally that the idea of a protection for games where service can be stoped for any reasson is a good thing. Example, I play Old Republic, if Bioware suddenly just up and decides the game isn't generating enough money or interest, and shuts it down, I'm gona be a little ticked that I bought the game, and now it's a sixty dollar paper weight.

[Frank Castle Alpha-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close Frank Castle]

Thats a tough one though, online/multi player games have shelf lives, the ones on PC's always survive because the PC community is just that much stronger and care, and its harder to lock out a shit load of PC owners.

Consoles on the other hand......

I do wonder in say 10 years, if I want to get a DLC/Live game, how will I do so, as its likely MS/Sony would have got rid of access to them, so basically if my HD fucks up, that game is gone forever.

Now most big games have a GOTY edition come out that solves that problem, but what about stuff just made for DLC, like Sonic 4, virtua fighter 5 etc.

I also agree with Razor, Sony also made an update that blocks ps2 games being played on PS3, my friend has a day one PS3 that could play PS2 games, thanks to that update, he cant anymore, that's fucked up, I know it happened years later but when you make such an investment( PS3 launch price = ouch) you'd expect to keep everything you got.

It makes you wonder what devilish plot they are planning for their new consoles.

[Tazer That Evil, Yellow Bastiche Find all posts View Profile Close Tazer]

Yo.

segue convo from the main topic: Sony let loose an update that blocked ps2 -usage on the ps3?? wat was the justification of that??




Tazer

[Frank Castle Alpha-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close Frank Castle]

So they can make money off you having to buy them again from PSN, its all about that money, it always is.

I expect the PS4 and 720 wont even bother with backwards compatibility from the get go.

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

And that relates to what Razor said. They have you over a barrel with updates. If you don't sign the TOS and get the update you forfeit your account, so they make you sign away your rights.

[Tazer That Evil, Yellow Bastiche Find all posts View Profile Close Tazer]

Yo.

ahhh, so then I was *RIGHT* to make fun og IG for his picking that platform over the 360...........








Tazer

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

So they can make money off you having to buy them again from PSN, its all about that money, it always is.

I expect the PS4 and 720 wont even bother with backwards compatibility from the get go.

Really? I expect they will. Asking people to shell out big bucks for a new system that won't play their old games at all WILL work for some people, but not for a bunch of others. Why cut out that part of their market? Obviously the thing to do is start with backwards compatibility, wait for people to buy it, then wait a bit longer for most of them to get rid of their old systems, THEN revoke it.

[Frank Castle Alpha-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close Frank Castle]

They might well do that, its still a BS move though, but like the DLC thing, if gamers aren't up to speed about how they're being exploited then they never will be, this gen has taught us that more than any other.

I also think less people will be throwing out there 360/PS3 than when those same console came along and people got rid of their xbox/PS2 on mass, especially the xbox.

I dont see the new consoles flying off the shelves either way.