well i'm a nice guy and i keep getting sh!t on by women (and no that's not what i mean you sickos ) so............ yeah i vote yes
See, I think that's where a lot of that comes from, but you do realize it's a non-sequitor, right? You may as well say "I wear t-shirts, women don't like me; therefore women like men in suits."
Anyway, I could not say that it's true overall that women prefer jerks. A bunch of you have sited cases you know of that qualify, but really out of all of the couples you know, how many of them qualify. If you know 50 couples can you honestly say that in 26 or more of them the guys are jerks and the women swoon over them?
I have come to peace with it. The women around these parts definatlliey jerks. They put a nicer spin on it and say they like "The Bad Boys". Well that's cool,as long as you own it. When the bad boy treats you badly,don't sit there and say things like nice guys with a good sense of humor. Cause ya don't.
I'm posting one comment and then leaving this thread forever.
About a year and a half ago, one my English professors (Brother to actor Neal McDonough. Great guy, kinda scary) told us an anecdote from his own life. He said he asked a woman why she was with the man she was with, who was, in his summation, "an asshole." The woman replied, by his account quite simply, "He's my kind of asshole."
Now, whether that relates to personal preference or if it's a dictation on how she was raised and what kind of man she was drawn to, I couldn't say. Neither could he, by the sound of it. So, I guess the point is some things just are the way they are and there's no real way around it.
Okay, I'm done. ...Maybe this was totally pointless?
I think I'm just going to go with the humanitarian obvious here- some women love jerks, some don't. It can't be an "all" or "nothing" type of thing. The same can be said of men loving bitches as well.
points to his mother's first marriage, his older sister's ex-husband, and his former coworker's ex-husband
My mom's older sister married a man with serious problems, and on numerous occasions left him. The only reason she went back to him is because he broke down and begged each time, and over all their years together things have vastly improved. He was not a jerk for very long.
My mother's first husband was a nice guy, but once his thyroid went bad, so did he. She could hardly bring herself to love him after that, at most feeling fear, confusion, and in ever-increasing amounts and especially today, pity. She left him long before he died.
My older sister left her husband, because he revealed just how much of an unrelenting monster he really is, and she is never going back.
My former coworker loved her husband, and gave him the benefit of the doubt when he was discovered to have cheated on her (he has a genetic ailment that affects hormones, which affects his thinking and emotions sometimes). But when he didn't stop, and vastly increased his errant behavior, she dropped him like a rock and found a far better man.
Women do not love men who are jerks. The ones who say they do say so out of fear and a lack of understanding as to what love really is. Love does not make you stay with or even go near someone who is a complete bastard.
There´s a difference between a "nice guy" (spineless doormat who thinks that by being nice and do things for girls entitles him to sex/affection) and a nice guys who´s pleasant to be around.
If the guy is a jerk, and there is a woman who lusts after him, does that not also imply she is a jerk as well? Or, in the very least, a little stupid?
That's one conclusion (well, two I suppose, technically), and it becomes very problematic if one believes both that AND that most women prefer jerks, because then that would mean that most women are jerks or stupid.
Presumably those here that are saying most women do prefer jerks would reject those options as the only reasons why.
If the guy is a jerk, and there is a woman who lusts after him, does that not also imply she is a jerk as well? Or, in the very least, a little stupid?
I think it can muddy the waters somewhat, too, that just because somebody is attracted to somebody who is a jerk does not necessarily mean that they are attracted to jerks.
It could just mean they are attracted to some other aspect enough that they overlook a certain amount of jerkiness.
To me, if one says that women prefer jerks, that implies that is it the fact that they are a jerk that they prefer, and I have a hard time buying that that is anything like a majority preference among women. To say that, if you take two guys that are otherwise identical in looks, interests, financials, confidence, etc., except one is a jerk, and the other isn't, MOST women will choose the one that is a jerk...yeah, I'm not seeing it.
Some women? Sure. There are all kinds of people in this world. But most? No, I just can't buy that, and haven't seen anything to suggest it.
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