i know this isnt qward but wtf?

[Jeff Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Jeff]

Eh, this thread is already derailed, why not just do it here?

Are you talking about a thread dedicated to demonstrating topic drift (where each post should be related to the one before in some way), or just a thread where people just post whatever, including complete non sequiturs?

I would go along with doing it here if it weren't for the seriousness of both topics, which I feel should be given respect because they are important. Maybe a mod could splice this thread?

The answer to your second question would be the complete non sequiturs. Sounds more fun that way.

[Deadpool Fight like a man: with your words, not your fists. Find all posts View Profile Close Deadpool]

So people should be able to make more money, as long as they can't spend it to get stuff the poorer people can't get?

No, they can spend it on legal stuff that's expensive, I just don't agree with private schooling. What you're saying is like saying "rich people should be able to pay to get their kids out of school".

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

No, they can spend it on legal stuff that's expensive, I just don't agree with private schooling. What you're saying is like saying "rich people should be able to pay to get their kids out of school".

No, what I'm saying is not anything like that, actually, since the kids are still going to school.

What I'm saying is that rich people should be able to choose to spend their money to get a higher quality version of something, be that a car, a house, or an education. As long as the education available to all meets reasonable standards, I see no justification for denying the opportunity for rich people to pay extra to upgrade it (smaller class sizes, wider range of course offerings, etc.) like they would with anything else.

Say the public schools don't have courses in German, and parents want their kid to learn German? Are you saying that shouldn't be allowed? Or would you allow private tutors? If so, how is private school any different, really, than hiring a BUNCH of tutors, when you come down to it?

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No, what I say is that all schools should have the option of German. Every school should offer the same range of topics, and they should offer the same quality. See instead of private schools existing at all, I'd have the government solely focus on public schools and improving their quality.

Actually I have nothing against private tutoring though, although I think it should be done in the student's spare time and the student should choose whether or not to receive extra education. I have nothing against additional education, in fact that's good but they should also go to school and receive the same amount of education as everyone else. But I wouldn't have private tutoring be that expensive, in fact I'd have the government fund some of it to make it cheaper. That way unless your as poor as they come even the average family can afford a private tutor, really it's just the same as your parents teaching you day to day stuff. But the course wouldn't be a GCSE (the British education certificate, I don't know your American system so I'm using the British one) it would be something different. Every child receives basic education at a GCSE level and gets the same courses as everyone else (until they reach GCSE level and they choose what topics to take like I did, but money has nothing to do with it so it doesn't matter) but after GCSE's they can go fuck themselves, learn or don't learn however you want to. I just want kids to all start equally but after compulsory education they can go and die for all I care.

Really I don't really give much of a flying fuck about private schools and whatnot but I disagree with them albeit that disagreement being rather low.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

See instead of private schools existing at all, I'd have the government solely focus on public schools and improving their quality.

Here's the thing though. Nothing about having private schools exist would interfere with the government solely focusing on public schools and improving their quality, unless the government is somehow spending education money to subsidize private schools (which is what I, personally, would find problematic).

Maybe it is different in the UK, but here, (in most cases, anyway) private schools have nothing at all to do with the government. That's the whole point. The government is ALREADY solely focusing on improving the quality of public schools, since that's all they have responsibility for, and where all their education money goes. Getting rid of private schools would in no way make the public schools better. It would likely make them WORSE, since all the kids going to private schools would be shoved into the public school system, while the tax-base would remain the same (since the rich folks are already supporting the public schools with their tax dollars even if their kids don't go there).

I'm right there with you on improving the public schools. I just don't see how eliminating private schools helps that goal, and if the public schools AREN'T that great, I don't see how society is IMPROVED by forcing everybody to go there. If the public schools are great, less people will send their kids to private schools, anyway. But forcing them to go to WORSE schools just to "level the playing field" at the lowest common denominator serves nobody's interests.

Are you suggesting they should somehow, magically, make all the public schools just as good as the best private ones? That'd be great, and if it were possible, then there'd be no NEED to outlaw private schools to get them to go away- why would anybody spend extra to send their kids to a school that isn't any better? But it will never, ever happen, and unless it does, your suggestion would help NOBODY get a BETTER education, but simply force some people to get a WORSE one, seemingly out of spite. (I know that last sounds harsh, but when one insists that others should not be allowed to have it better than you, even if denying them doesn't improve your own experience, it sounds spiteful to me. Although I know from your other contributions here that you aren't really a spiteful guy.)

[Deadpool Fight like a man: with your words, not your fists. Find all posts View Profile Close Deadpool]

To be honest I don't really know how to answer that.

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

When I was in school and we were doing a project on housing for the homeless, ... (as if we youngsters were going to develop anything remotely like a viable solution in a couple months, but it certainly made us think)...

So, basically you're saying homelessness still exists because you guys failed? Boo!

No, what I say is that all schools should have the option of German...

German is too easy. Let's talk specialization. Let's say I have a son who is gifted as all get out on the violin. I want to encourage him in this and I've worked my butt off to help him succeed (that's what I want to spend my money on--not on coke or a solid gold mansion). Now, I can send him to a private school with a focus on music where he can meet all the state requirements of education and still spend a third of his day (say 2-3 hours) being taught by a violin maestro. What are the odds that my local school is going to be able to do that? Say (for argument's sake) there are 10 top violin teachers in the country. They physically can't teach at more than 10,000 public schools so why shouldn't I use the resources I've earned (in a free market economy) to make sure I'm paying one of those 10 to make my son one of the next generation's 10 because that's his life's goal?

[Deadpool Fight like a man: with your words, not your fists. Find all posts View Profile Close Deadpool]

Maybe he could just learn in his spare time?

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

Maybe he could just learn in his spare time?

Blah, blah, blah. You're just a communist who happens to believe people who hold guns should get paid more than people who hold garbage.

[Deadpool Fight like a man: with your words, not your fists. Find all posts View Profile Close Deadpool]

Well that's not a communist then......am I a communist......oh, I think I should take an online test or something.....comrade.

[Deadpool Fight like a man: with your words, not your fists. Find all posts View Profile Close Deadpool]

Screw you all! Here's my commie test results!
http://www.okcupid.com/results/the-c...mCGI=1#sharing

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

Screw you all! Here's my commie test results!
http://www.okcupid.com/results/the-c...mCGI=1#sharing

Nazi, how shocking.

[Deadpool Fight like a man: with your words, not your fists. Find all posts View Profile Close Deadpool]

lol I know right Space Cop! Yet I took another test and got these results.

Thing is though I actually really do care about the economy. But I think both of the tests are more comedic than serious. I took a political compass test a while back however and got these results, note this was a serious test with more than ten questions.

So yeah, I'm all over the place politically.
Here's one from another site which I feel is more accurate though.

But you get the general basics of my views.
Oh, and I feel this political idealology test bellow sums me up perfectly.