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    Agent Purple
    The Illustrated Man

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    Georgia is apparently trying to alter their state constitution solely for the purpose of protecting Trump.

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  • Booster Beetle
    Will break before he bends

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    Originally posted by Agent Purple View Post
    "Any Texas Republican voters that want the lights on should just vacation in Mexico, like me and my family"

    -- Ted Cruz, probably
    My neighbors continuing to vote for Rafael makes me ashamed to be Texan.

    But he doesn’t take er jerbs or take er gerns so nothing will change.

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  • Mister Ed
    Horse of a Different Color

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    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    I agree he was wrong to throw pence under the bus but honestly i really do believe this is to prevent him from running in 2024 i really do. I just saw i think 2 days ago that some gop members who i dont have the names of infont of me saying even equited trump is barred and disqualifyed from running in 2024. As i said its about 2024
    I think that after this display of infantile petulance at losing an election, Trump SHOULD be disqualified from holding public office. I really hope that somebody finds a way to accomplish that, even though the Senate trial failed to convict. I mean Georgia has him on tape telling the Secretary of State to commit election fraud for him (don't know how anybody can spin Trump telling him to "find" him a bunch of votes any other way). That ought to come with some kind of consequences.

    Fortunately, I think the GOP is beginning to realize that transforming their party into a personality cult devoted to one narcissistic blowhard is not the route to long term success. Unfortunately for them, they enabled that transformation for far too long because of the short-term power gains it produced, and now extricating themselves will likely divide the party so badly that they will have real difficulty coming back in 2024 to make a serious run at the Presidency.
    Mister Ed
    Horse of a Different Color
    Last edited by Mister Ed; 02-18-2021, 07:02 PM.

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  • Agent Purple
    The Illustrated Man

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    "Any Texas Republican voters that want the lights on should just vacation in Mexico, like me and my family"

    -- Ted Cruz, probably

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  • TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe

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    Originally posted by Mister Ed View Post
    Nixon resigned so that Ford could pardon him. That's why there was no trial. Had Trump resigned to be pardoned by Pence (good luck with that, after Trump threw him under the bus for rightly refusing to exceed his Constitutional authority to help Trump try steal the election to soothe his fragile ego), there would have been no trial for him, either.
    I agree he was wrong to throw pence under the bus but honestly i really do believe this is to prevent him from running in 2024 i really do. I just saw i think 2 days ago that some gop members who i dont have the names of infont of me saying even equited trump is barred and disqualifyed from running in 2024. As i said its about 2024. Also saying gathering at the Capitol isnt inciting or fight like hell isnt inciting. I can send you to many democratic politians saying fight like hell to keep trump from winning. One of those politcians being the new vp. Isnt that inciting a riot? Apparently its only inciting if your on the right. People labelled jan 6th a rebellion but specifically define rebellion. Kids rebel all the time against there parents . Hell theres people who rebel against there job for more pay better conditions and medical insurance but its called a strike. So if a person on strike says fight like hell for better medical insurance does that mean said worker is inciting a riot? People are in charge of how they react and to say one person had more power over someone in terms of decision making is asinine and a excuse. Do you know how many times i just wanted to knock someone out for almost hitting me in traffic wile walking when the light is red or when they screw up a food order i wated a hour for in terms of delivery ? As much as i want to hit said person i dont become i control my emotions. People prefer not to and would rather say i had no control or blame whoever . Its a excuse
    TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe
    Last edited by TazzMission; 02-18-2021, 07:07 PM.

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  • Mister Ed
    Horse of a Different Color

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    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    Dude if thats the case why wast there a trial for Nixon for Watergate ? Yea he resigned to avoid being impeached but the guy did illegal shit yet no trial. This is where it gets dangerous because do we start trials on former presidents and prosecute after they resigned and become private citizens? Wheres the line drawn? Start with one it affects everyone else
    Nixon resigned so that Ford could pardon him. That's why there was no trial. Had Trump resigned to be pardoned by Pence (good luck with that, after Trump threw him under the bus for rightly refusing to exceed his Constitutional authority to help Trump try steal the election to soothe his fragile ego), there would have been no trial for him, either.

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  • TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe

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    Originally posted by Mister Ed View Post
    Technically, they succeeded in impeaching him both times. Impeachment and removal are two different things.

    And there was plenty of evidence that Russia interfered in support of Trump.

    Where many Democrats went wrong was pushing the notion that Trump actively colluded with the Russians in that. There was very little evidentiary support for THAT, but too many people focused too much time and effort pursuing that angle, at least in my opinion.

    But he was impeached the first time for withholding support from Ukraine that Congress had already approved, in an attempt to get them to try to dig up dirt on Biden. That was most definitely an impeachable offense, and there was plenty of evidence for it.

    This last time, he was impeached for inciting the Capitol riot, and IMHO, there was plenty of evidence for that as well. In fact, it seems (unless they are lying) that there was enough evidence of that for him to have been convicted in the Senate, because aside from the Republicans that voted to do so, there were several other Republicans (enough to convict) that said they only voted against it because they didn't feel the Senate could convict someone who was no longer President. So Trump (and his most ardent supporters) can live in his own little fantasy world where this latest failure to convict is some kind of vindication, but that is not what the people involved say it is.
    Dude if thats the case why wast there a trial for Nixon for Watergate ? Yea he resigned to avoid being impeached but the guy did illegal shit yet no trial. This is where it gets dangerous because do we start trials on former presidents and prosecute after they resigned and become private citizens? Wheres the line drawn? Start with one it affects everyone else

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  • Mister Ed
    Horse of a Different Color

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    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    And yet blm torched cities for a entire summer shot And killed David dorn who was black himself yet people call it a just uprising. Oh yea cancel culture up the wazoo if you dont bend a knee to mob of the extreme left. Also the left spent 3 years saying Russia helped trump steal 2016 with no evidence tried impeachment twice and failed. Kevin sorbo best known for Hercules just had his Facebook page nuked because hes conservative and one fanconvention stated wich you can look up they wont deal with sorbo since hes friends with sean hannity at fox. How is that not political?
    Technically, they succeeded in impeaching him both times. Impeachment and removal are two different things.

    And there was plenty of evidence that Russia interfered in support of Trump.

    Where many Democrats went wrong was pushing the notion that Trump actively colluded with the Russians in that. There was very little evidentiary support for THAT, but too many people focused too much time and effort pursuing that angle, at least in my opinion.

    But he was impeached the first time for withholding support from Ukraine that Congress had already approved, in an attempt to get them to try to dig up dirt on Biden. That was most definitely an impeachable offense, and there was plenty of evidence for it.

    This last time, he was impeached for inciting the Capitol riot, and IMHO, there was plenty of evidence for that as well. In fact, it seems (unless they are lying) that there was enough evidence of that for him to have been convicted in the Senate, because aside from the Republicans that voted to do so, there were several other Republicans (enough to convict) that said they only voted against it because they didn't feel the Senate could convict someone who was no longer President. So Trump (and his most ardent supporters) can live in his own little fantasy world where this latest failure to convict is some kind of vindication, but that is not what the people involved say it is.

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  • Booster Beetle
    Will break before he bends

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  • TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe

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    Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
    Trump lost, and nobody stole the election from him. The voters rejected him, and then he peevishly provoked the Capitol Riot, which has made him even more unpopular. Yet I see Republicans extolling him and threatening other Republicans who tell the truth about him.

    Well that's fine. I hope they keep on doing that for the next four years, so we can see how that works out for them.
    And yet blm torched cities for a entire summer shot And killed David dorn who was black himself yet people call it a just uprising. Oh yea cancel culture up the wazoo if you dont bend a knee to mob of the extreme left. Also the left spent 3 years saying Russia helped trump steal 2016 with no evidence tried impeachment twice and failed. Kevin sorbo best known for Hercules just had his Facebook page nuked because hes conservative and one fanconvention stated wich you can look up they wont deal with sorbo since hes friends with sean hannity at fox. How is that not political?
    TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe
    Last edited by TazzMission; 02-16-2021, 02:59 PM.

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  • Trey Strain
    Guardian of the Universe

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    Trump lost, and nobody stole the election from him. The voters rejected him, and then he peevishly provoked the Capitol Riot, which has made him even more unpopular. Yet I see Republicans extolling him and threatening other Republicans who tell the truth about him.

    Well that's fine. I hope they keep on doing that for the next four years, so we can see how that works out for them.

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  • TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe

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    Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
    One aspect of Cohnism that is fundamentally sound is that if someone fucks with you, you need to make him pay a price for it. Otherwise you're inviting more abuse. Trump of course took it much too far, mainly because he has 88 million followers on Twitter who he loved to show off for, and was able to indulge in all manner of juvenile name-calling and insults.
    What about guys like cuomo who hid deaths wich were higher than reported from nursing homes and covid wich one of his staffers blew the whistle on and ny democrats and republicans are demanding he be stripped of his emergency powers? What about people like lori lightfoot who allowed anarchy in Chicago all summer? I live in Illinois this shit hole is very corrupt and democrats have run it for decades. What about chaz in Portland? Or Minnesota? All run by democrats should they be impeached and tried? What about California itself telling buisnesses they cant open due to covid restriction but some studio can shoot a movie in that resteraunts lot? What about the 2 cops sitting in there car who were shot dead in los angelas by 2 black individuals? Theres video of it. Nobody talks about it because people think trump is the devil. I find it hilarious people call trump supporters cultists but i remember when king obama won his first term in 2008 people were naming there kids after him. And that isnt cultish?
    TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe
    Last edited by TazzMission; 02-15-2021, 04:42 PM.

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  • Trey Strain
    Guardian of the Universe

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    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    Dude the left has control of everything in your heart of hearts you believe what you just posted shouldnt you be blaming the party with the majority? If i can call out my party for bs or hypocrisy why cant you or anyone on the left?
    The Republicans are the majority political party. If not for Trump, they'd still control the government. But yes, the Democrats control the media.

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  • Trey Strain
    Guardian of the Universe

  • Trey Strain
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    One aspect of Cohnism that is fundamentally sound is that if someone fucks with you, you need to make him pay a price for it. Otherwise you're inviting more abuse. Trump of course took it much too far, mainly because he has 88 million followers on Twitter who he loved to show off for, and was able to indulge in all manner of juvenile name-calling and insults.

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  • TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe

  • TazzMission
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    Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
    I actually support a coupe of things Trump did. One is getting our troops out of harm's way in places they should never has been sent. The other is acknowledging the plight of the white working class. This country had already acknowledged the working class's minority members.

    What's terrible is his normalization of relentless lies by the president, and of personal attacks on those who crossed him that were vastly out of proportion to the provocations. That stuff was straight out of the playbook of the dastardly Roy Cohn, who was Trump's idol.

    His Senate trial presented reason #2,999,999 why we need term limits in Congress, The Republicans were more interested in clinging to office than in doing the right thing, and they were terrified that Trump would come to their states and campaign against them in the primaries.
    Dude the left has control of everything in your heart of hearts you believe what you just posted shouldnt you be blaming the party with the majority? If i can call out my party for bs or hypocrisy why cant you or anyone on the left do the same for yours ?
    TazzMission
    Guardian of the Universe
    Last edited by TazzMission; 02-15-2021, 02:48 PM.

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