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Georgia is apparently trying to alter their state constitution solely for the purpose of protecting Trump.
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Originally posted by Agent Purple View Post"Any Texas Republican voters that want the lights on should just vacation in Mexico, like me and my family"
-- Ted Cruz, probably
But he doesn’t take er jerbs or take er gerns so nothing will change.
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Originally posted by TazzMission View PostI agree he was wrong to throw pence under the bus but honestly i really do believe this is to prevent him from running in 2024 i really do. I just saw i think 2 days ago that some gop members who i dont have the names of infont of me saying even equited trump is barred and disqualifyed from running in 2024. As i said its about 2024
Fortunately, I think the GOP is beginning to realize that transforming their party into a personality cult devoted to one narcissistic blowhard is not the route to long term success. Unfortunately for them, they enabled that transformation for far too long because of the short-term power gains it produced, and now extricating themselves will likely divide the party so badly that they will have real difficulty coming back in 2024 to make a serious run at the Presidency.Last edited by Mister Ed; 02-18-2021, 07:02 PM.
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"Any Texas Republican voters that want the lights on should just vacation in Mexico, like me and my family"
-- Ted Cruz, probably
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Originally posted by Mister Ed View PostNixon resigned so that Ford could pardon him. That's why there was no trial. Had Trump resigned to be pardoned by Pence (good luck with that, after Trump threw him under the bus for rightly refusing to exceed his Constitutional authority to help Trump try steal the election to soothe his fragile ego), there would have been no trial for him, either.Last edited by TazzMission; 02-18-2021, 07:07 PM.
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Originally posted by TazzMission View PostDude if thats the case why wast there a trial for Nixon for Watergate ? Yea he resigned to avoid being impeached but the guy did illegal shit yet no trial. This is where it gets dangerous because do we start trials on former presidents and prosecute after they resigned and become private citizens? Wheres the line drawn? Start with one it affects everyone else
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Originally posted by Mister Ed View PostTechnically, they succeeded in impeaching him both times. Impeachment and removal are two different things.
And there was plenty of evidence that Russia interfered in support of Trump.
Where many Democrats went wrong was pushing the notion that Trump actively colluded with the Russians in that. There was very little evidentiary support for THAT, but too many people focused too much time and effort pursuing that angle, at least in my opinion.
But he was impeached the first time for withholding support from Ukraine that Congress had already approved, in an attempt to get them to try to dig up dirt on Biden. That was most definitely an impeachable offense, and there was plenty of evidence for it.
This last time, he was impeached for inciting the Capitol riot, and IMHO, there was plenty of evidence for that as well. In fact, it seems (unless they are lying) that there was enough evidence of that for him to have been convicted in the Senate, because aside from the Republicans that voted to do so, there were several other Republicans (enough to convict) that said they only voted against it because they didn't feel the Senate could convict someone who was no longer President. So Trump (and his most ardent supporters) can live in his own little fantasy world where this latest failure to convict is some kind of vindication, but that is not what the people involved say it is.
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Originally posted by TazzMission View PostAnd yet blm torched cities for a entire summer shot And killed David dorn who was black himself yet people call it a just uprising. Oh yea cancel culture up the wazoo if you dont bend a knee to mob of the extreme left. Also the left spent 3 years saying Russia helped trump steal 2016 with no evidence tried impeachment twice and failed. Kevin sorbo best known for Hercules just had his Facebook page nuked because hes conservative and one fanconvention stated wich you can look up they wont deal with sorbo since hes friends with sean hannity at fox. How is that not political?
And there was plenty of evidence that Russia interfered in support of Trump.
Where many Democrats went wrong was pushing the notion that Trump actively colluded with the Russians in that. There was very little evidentiary support for THAT, but too many people focused too much time and effort pursuing that angle, at least in my opinion.
But he was impeached the first time for withholding support from Ukraine that Congress had already approved, in an attempt to get them to try to dig up dirt on Biden. That was most definitely an impeachable offense, and there was plenty of evidence for it.
This last time, he was impeached for inciting the Capitol riot, and IMHO, there was plenty of evidence for that as well. In fact, it seems (unless they are lying) that there was enough evidence of that for him to have been convicted in the Senate, because aside from the Republicans that voted to do so, there were several other Republicans (enough to convict) that said they only voted against it because they didn't feel the Senate could convict someone who was no longer President. So Trump (and his most ardent supporters) can live in his own little fantasy world where this latest failure to convict is some kind of vindication, but that is not what the people involved say it is.
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Originally posted by Trey Strain View PostTrump lost, and nobody stole the election from him. The voters rejected him, and then he peevishly provoked the Capitol Riot, which has made him even more unpopular. Yet I see Republicans extolling him and threatening other Republicans who tell the truth about him.
Well that's fine. I hope they keep on doing that for the next four years, so we can see how that works out for them.Last edited by TazzMission; 02-16-2021, 02:59 PM.
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Trump lost, and nobody stole the election from him. The voters rejected him, and then he peevishly provoked the Capitol Riot, which has made him even more unpopular. Yet I see Republicans extolling him and threatening other Republicans who tell the truth about him.
Well that's fine. I hope they keep on doing that for the next four years, so we can see how that works out for them.
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Originally posted by Trey Strain View PostOne aspect of Cohnism that is fundamentally sound is that if someone fucks with you, you need to make him pay a price for it. Otherwise you're inviting more abuse. Trump of course took it much too far, mainly because he has 88 million followers on Twitter who he loved to show off for, and was able to indulge in all manner of juvenile name-calling and insults.Last edited by TazzMission; 02-15-2021, 04:42 PM.
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Originally posted by TazzMission View PostDude the left has control of everything in your heart of hearts you believe what you just posted shouldnt you be blaming the party with the majority? If i can call out my party for bs or hypocrisy why cant you or anyone on the left?
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One aspect of Cohnism that is fundamentally sound is that if someone fucks with you, you need to make him pay a price for it. Otherwise you're inviting more abuse. Trump of course took it much too far, mainly because he has 88 million followers on Twitter who he loved to show off for, and was able to indulge in all manner of juvenile name-calling and insults.
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Originally posted by Trey Strain View PostI actually support a coupe of things Trump did. One is getting our troops out of harm's way in places they should never has been sent. The other is acknowledging the plight of the white working class. This country had already acknowledged the working class's minority members.
What's terrible is his normalization of relentless lies by the president, and of personal attacks on those who crossed him that were vastly out of proportion to the provocations. That stuff was straight out of the playbook of the dastardly Roy Cohn, who was Trump's idol.
His Senate trial presented reason #2,999,999 why we need term limits in Congress, The Republicans were more interested in clinging to office than in doing the right thing, and they were terrified that Trump would come to their states and campaign against them in the primaries.Last edited by TazzMission; 02-15-2021, 02:48 PM.
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