Outrage of the Week

[TazzMission]

I think you have a misunderstanding of what HIPAA does. Given that vaccines are required in many different contexts already, and have been for years, it clearly doesn't mean what you think it does. It is a set of guidelines to prevent those that have a patient's health records from disclosing them without the patient's knowledge and consent. It has explicit exceptions for matters of public health. I can simply say I find abortion a public health crisis tomorrow and I gurantee you I'd be called a evil right wing republican who is anti reproduction rights. But than h government mandates let's kiss there asses and say yes and no sir

And it wouldn't apply in this case, anyway, because HIPAA does not, in any way, limit an individual's ability to release their own health info. It also does not limit other's ability to request it from the patient themself. There are other laws in place to prevent discrimination based on health conditions or health history, and to prevent requiring people to reveal some such things, but vaccine status is not among those things, not when it is being required in the service of public safety.

Who defines what is or isn't a public safety issue ? And just because someone can dosent mean there always correct. People die every year from the common flu yet no flu shot mandate

[Mister Ed]

So hypaa law shouldn't apply in terms of asking if people are or aren't vaccinated? Isn't it a person's right to have there medical information confidential? A vaccine would fall under that protection I assume. This isn't the republican tazz speaking this is tazz the guy who worked in assistant living hypaa is very important so if they can ask about vaccinnations what does that do about mental health? Basically what I'm asking is how much privacy should be invaded in sake of protecting others ?

I think you have a misunderstanding of what HIPAA does. Given that vaccines are required in many different contexts already, and have been for years, it clearly doesn't mean what you think it does. It is a set of guidelines to prevent those that have a patient's health records from disclosing them without the patient's knowledge and consent. It has explicit exceptions for matters of public health.

And it wouldn't apply in this case, anyway, because HIPAA does not, in any way, limit an individual's ability to release their own health info. It also does not limit other's ability to request it from the patient themself. There are other laws in place to prevent discrimination based on health conditions or health history, and to prevent requiring people to reveal some such things, but vaccine status is not among those things, not when it is being required in the service of public safety.

[TazzMission]

Well, there's a difference, and it should be obvious.

Forcing people who had an abortion to reveal that, and preventing them from working because of it would be a purely punitive endeavor. Vaccine mandates are not.

A woman who had an abortion is not putting anybody in her workplace at risk due to that fact. An unvaccinated person is. They wouldn't be preventing the unvaccinated person from working as a punishment, they'd be doing it as a safety measure. If you can't see the difference, then there is really no point in continuing this discussion.

So hypaa law shouldn't apply in terms of asking if people are or aren't vaccinated? Isn't it a person's right to have there medical information confidential? A vaccine would fall under that protection I assume. This isn't the republican tazz speaking this is tazz the guy who worked in assistant living hypaa is very important so if they can ask about vaccinnations what does that do about mental health? Basically what I'm asking is how much privacy should be invaded in sake of protecting others ? Do we just give up all rights to our privacy ?

[Mister Ed]

Let me ask you this . Should people who have had a abortion present there private info to a employer and should that person be not allowed to work? Your doing that for the unvaccinated. Nobodies talking about theft that's not the discussion.

Well, there's a difference, and it should be obvious.

Forcing people who had an abortion to reveal that, and preventing them from working because of it would be a purely punitive endeavor. Vaccine mandates are not.

A woman who had an abortion is not putting anybody in her workplace at risk due to that fact. An unvaccinated person is. They wouldn't be preventing the unvaccinated person from working as a punishment, they'd be doing it as a safety measure. If you can't see the difference, then there is really no point in continuing this discussion.

[TazzMission]

So your argument is, "If they don't stop abortion, then nobody should have to get a vaccine"? Because I'm not buying it.

It seems much more logical to say, "I think abortion is wrong, and for the same reasons I think it is wrong to refuse pandemic mandates."

Otherwise you are like the person that objects to theft, but argues that they should be allowed to steal small stuff because other people are getting away with stealing big stuff. If somebody really believes something is wrong, the fact that some people are getting away with it shouldn't make them argue that others should be allowed to as well.

Let me ask you this . Should people who have had a abortion present there private info to a employer and should that person be not allowed to work? Your doing that for the unvaccinated. Nobodies talking about theft that's not the discussion.

[Mister Ed]

So your argument is, "If they don't stop abortion, then nobody should have to get a vaccine"? Because I'm not buying it.

It seems much more logical to say, "I think abortion is wrong, and for the same reasons I think it is wrong to refuse pandemic mandates."

Otherwise you are like the person that objects to theft, but argues that they should be allowed to steal small stuff because other people are getting away with stealing big stuff. If somebody really believes something is wrong, the fact that some people are getting away with it shouldn't make them argue that others should be allowed to as well.

[TazzMission]

I'm not arguing in favor of abortion. I'm just saying it is hypocritical when people are so adamant about protecting unborn children, yet say "My Body, My Choice" when it comes to taking steps to protect the humans they come into contact with every day.

But thats the exact same argument the pro choice movement says. It may not be you specifically but cmon dude you really think unvaxed Americans ( thats not including illegal imigrants who aren't vax ) caused more deaths than abortion? People treat abortion like its a cure for a common cold and its normalized and accepted. Since unvaxinated people can lose there job have to show a vax id why cant we do the same for people who had abortion? Why is ok to violate my privacy if im vaxed or not but they who literally kill kids get a pass? We just took in about 100 unaccompanied kids from the Afghanistan fuck up here in Illinois and none of them are vaxed. Why isnt anyone addressing that? How many international travelers do you estimate are vaxed we allow in the usa?

[Mister Ed]

I'm not arguing in favor of abortion. I'm just saying it is hypocritical when people are so adamant about protecting unborn children, yet say "My Body, My Choice" when it comes to taking steps to protect the humans they come into contact with every day.

[TazzMission]

Accusations of hypocrisy go both ways, though.

People that claim that one's right to do what they wish with their own body should be limited when another life is at stake cannot then claim that they should have total freedom to endanger others by refusing to follow pandemic mandates. At least not without being hypocritical.

I have not nor have i ever killed anyone let alone a unborn child. People argue rape or incest but nobody can give a accurate number on how many abortions Are done just on those particular reasons. Say if its like 1 percent of all abortions you still have 99 percent that are done because people refuse to be smart and use protection wether it be condoms or birth control. And im sorry if your to broke to where you cant afford a condom wich is probably a buck for just one Shouldnt that person think about the financial situation he or she is in And make a wiser decision to hold off till he or she can afford it?? Im no parent but kids aren't cheap. Id also like to add the father of said unborn child has zero say wich i think is wrong. I just think its hypocritical you can announce what percent of the country is or isnt vaxed but cant give a number on abortion simply based on rape or incest. Personally i feel we should eliminate abortion And replace it with vasectomy and tubligation with tax payer money. If people dont want kids they can do that and in the future if they change there minds they can adopt. Im not anti premarital sex im just anti stupid decision making and i also feel male or female need to be responsible if they become parents. I speak from being raised in a single mom home she had a rough time raising 3 kids and wile my relationship with her was horrible she never said oh its to much just abort him

[Mister Ed]

Accusations of hypocrisy go both ways, though.

People that claim that one's right to do what they wish with their own body should be limited when another life is at stake cannot then claim that they should have total freedom to endanger others by refusing to follow pandemic mandates. At least not without being hypocritical.

[TazzMission]

Watched part of a town hall video where a father and daughter immediately go off the deep end in arguing against masks in frankly the most disturbing way possible.

The daughter comes to the mic first, identifies herself, and then begins by saying, "A famous politician once said, 'If you control the youth you control the future'" or something close to that.

The person she is referring to is Adolf fucking Hitler.

I didn't want to vomit up my lunch so I cut the viewing short, but it's Thompson School District, I think in South Dakota. Specifically I caught David Pakman's coverage of it.

That family desperately needs to get its collective ass to a Holocaust memorial and learn a major lesson.

Not excusing her hitler remarks but i find it hypocritical people pushing the vax are worried about keeping others alive but at the same time are pro abortion wich is the killing of a unborn child. The left argues my body my choice but apparently it dosent argue the same for people who refuse the vax. Isnt my body my choice or i dont get one because im a straight white male who dosent have vagina privilege? Once the left figures out there life priorities than they can lecture me about human morality and how decisions effect others

[Agent Purple]

Watched part of a town hall video where a father and daughter immediately go off the deep end in arguing against masks in frankly the most disturbing way possible.

The daughter comes to the mic first, identifies herself, and then begins by saying, "A famous politician once said, 'If you control the youth you control the future'" or something close to that.

The person she is referring to is Adolf fucking Hitler.

I didn't want to vomit up my lunch so I cut the viewing short, but it's Thompson School District, I think in South Dakota. Specifically I caught David Pakman's coverage of it.

That family desperately needs to get its collective ass to a Holocaust memorial and learn a major lesson.

[TazzMission]

Oh, it’s stupid. I agree. I’m just hoping there’s enough execs who say “wait a minute, X-Men the brand makes a lot of money, slow down.”

sorry for being a broken record on repeat but would it be justifiable to say since things are outdated we can change the name of black panther to just the panther where a blonde hair blue eyed European wore the panther costume and it needs to be inclusive? Even better blade. People would flip there shit if blade was some ginger haired white guy named kevin and call it white washing.

[Space Cop]

See heres the thing will the same be done to names that have girl or woman in it like batwoman batgirl ect? I feel like this is a attack on gender pronouns or if they dont do the same for women its a direct a attack on men in general

Oh, it’s stupid. I agree. I’m just hoping there’s enough execs who say “wait a minute, X-Men the brand makes a lot of money, slow down.”

[TazzMission]

^I saw an article about the X-Men thing, but from what I saw she said in the past that’s what she would do. It’s not necessarily a done deal. Of course, she still might, but I assume there’s a number of steps to changing an IP.

See heres the thing will the same be done to names that have girl or woman in it like batwoman batgirl ect? I feel like this is a attack on gender pronouns or if they dont do the same for women its a direct a attack on men in general