US manga obscenity conviction rocks world

[Andrew NDB Shot Caller Find all posts View Profile Close Andrew NDB]

In an obscenity first, a U.S. comic book collector has pleaded guilty to importing and possessing Japanese manga books depicting illustrations of child sex abuse and bestiality.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/200...porn/?format-c

[IonFan Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close IonFan]

that's bullsh!t, it was just manga nothing real, WTF man

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[Andrew NDB Shot Caller Find all posts View Profile Close Andrew NDB]

That is pretty stupid. You mean I could draw a little picture with a pencil and do 15 years in prison for it?

[Colonel Xonic The Butcher Find all posts View Profile Close Colonel Xonic]

Lame... why do they make this...?

[Guest Close GreenLanternGeek]

Seriously WTF?!

[Colonel Xonic The Butcher Find all posts View Profile Close Colonel Xonic]

If you wanna see that kinna' stuff do it yourself or find a hooker

[GL_2814 Bond, Lantern Bond Find all posts View Profile Close GL_2814]

This kind of thing is what has me worried about the intelligence of humanity

[Maverick_GL Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Maverick_GL]

So if I draw pictures of this sort of stuff, I will be liable for jail time? This is starting to become very Orwellian if you ask me.

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It is pretty scary stuff. My shop donates to the CBLDF all the time, just in case we get slammed for selling stuff that some folks may decide offends them.





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I'm all for free speech, especially through art, but I can't get behind this. I am by no means a prude, but there just some things that should not be put on display to the public for the simple fact it's in poor taste.

This kind of reminds me of about a year when a teacher and principal flipped out because a kid doodled a gun in a his notebook. It wasn't pointed at anything and wasn't even good. It looked like he wasn't even looking at the paper. Anyway, sometimes stuff like this depends on context. Though I can't imagine how this could be good in any way.

[Darth_Andrea Owned by Natu Find all posts View Profile Close Darth_Andrea]

Does this mean that if the artists who actually drew those manga books came to the US they could be charged with the production of Child porn?


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[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

This is an odd one. I mean, IMHO, child porn is child porn, at least as far as being disgusting and having zero redeeming value. But no children were actually exploited, unless they are contending that there were live models.

I guess as an issue of public safety I wonder if there is any kind of study of the effects of viewing child porn. What I mean is, are pedophiles who view child porn more likely to molest some real kids, or less? (I was going to say, if people who view child porn are more likely to molest real kids, but I realized that OF COURSE that's the case, since the population viewing child porn is going to be almost entirely pedophiles, who are OBVIOUSLY more likely to molest kids than the population at large.)

If the answer is more, I'd say that, as a matter of public safety the government is justfied in treating child porn of any kind criminally (though I would expect porn that used actual children to be punished worse, because there would be other violations of the law involved). If the answer is less, then I'd say that treating it differently than any other form of porn (assuming no other laws are broken) seems questionable, even though I personally think it is more disgusting.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

I had actually heard of this sort of issue before, though it was about child porn produced on a computer to LOOK photorealistic, so it LOOKED like real children. That is even MORE of a gray area, though, since there would often be reason to believe that the end user assumed they were viewing actual pictures, so their intentions were therefore illegal, and busting them for it would not really, in my mind, be any different than busting a guy who set up a sexual liason with a kid online, even if it turned out to really be a police set-up.

[The_Mad_Dragon Captain Pervert Find all posts View Profile Close The_Mad_Dragon]

Wait, if Transformers Kissplayers gets imported, we can arrest the creator?

YES!!!