"Collateral Damage"

[JohnMc]

hey guys, is CD part of Continuity? havent read it yet..

It most likely is even though the events of CD haven't been mentioned in GL or GLC [again I hope they don't drop the Guy has the urn of Vuldarian DNA]

I can't stand Guy as Jerk, especially when it is force fed down our throats

I totally agree!

[Lord Malvolio]

Ugh, why did DC even allow this mini to be made and really, what was the point of it? Did anything major come out of it that A) we needed to know, B) added ANYTHING to the GL mythos?

I can't stand Guy as Jerk, especially when it is force fed down our throats to be "cute". A horrible waste of money if you ask me.

[Andrew NDB]

hey guys, is CD part of Continuity? havent read it yet..

Apart from there still being Vuldarians alive, I don't see why it shouldn't be. It's pretty clear by reading it that it's intended to be.

[Tons T]

hey guys, is CD part of Continuity? havent read it yet..

Anyone into Howard Chaykins other work? I didn't care for Collateral damage, but I find that more often than not I enjoy his writing and art. My favorite story of his might be his Blackhawk mini series, Blood And Iron. Black Kiss was pretty cool, and I liked most of American Century.

I love Bite Club far more then anybody should. It's as disturbing as it is brilliant. I can't wait for the combined trade of both mini-series that's coming out.

-Erik

[GLJIMT]

Anyone into Howard Chaykins other work? I didn't care for Collateral damage, but I find that more often than not I enjoy his writing and art. My favorite story of his might be his Blackhawk mini series, Blood And Iron. Black Kiss was pretty cool, and I liked most of American Century.

Was he the artist on this? Because I didn't like the art on this.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

Anyone into Howard Chaykins other work? I didn't care for Collateral damage, but I find that more often than not I enjoy his writing and art. My favorite story of his might be his Blackhawk mini series, Blood And Iron. Black Kiss was pretty cool, and I liked most of American Century.

I loved that, too. It would be a good tradition to restore, now more than ever (well, after Kyle is Kyle again and all, but you know what I mean).

Yeah! that'd be nice to see again!

[Andrew NDB]

You know speaking of Warriors being rebuilt we need a return of the Green Lantern bar night. You know during Kyle's run as GL, John, Guy, Alan, and Kyle would meet up at Warriors once a month and just shoot the breeze talk shop, tell stories. Those were great moments. Just cause the Corps is back and Hal's alive doesn't mean they should have stopped that.

Meh random rant off.

I loved that, too. It would be a good tradition to restore, now more than ever (well, after Kyle is Kyle again and all, but you know what I mean).

You know speaking of Warriors being rebuilt we need a return of the Green Lantern bar night. You know during Kyle's run as GL, John, Guy, Alan, and Kyle would meet up at Warriors once a month and just shoot the breeze talk shop, tell stories. Those were great moments. Just cause the Corps is back and Hal's alive doesn't mean they should have stopped that.

Meh random rant off.

[JohnMc]

I didn't like it that much. Some reasons...

1.) While I didn't mind the Warrior POWERS, the Vuldarian backstory always seemed stupid to me, and every time they had issues focusing on that, I always cringed. And this one doesn't even stay consisten with THAT, since Guy was supposed to be the LAST Vuldarian, by a few millenia. Yet in this, it doesn't seem anybody is particularly surprised, even, that there are still Vuldarians around.

Offically he was supposed to be the last of the Vuldarians. Considering Guy was able to regrow a heart [ he had 2] and rebulid himself from scratch after OWAW and in GG:W annual #2 is shown still alive 100s of years later I really didn't think it would be that big of a stretch to believe that some other Vuldarians could of survived too. Now after the events of CC#2 he is the last of the Vuldarians again. I hope they don't drop the plotpoint of him taking the urn of Vuldarian DNA to safguard it.

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe I'm way off, then. I liked that it gave us a glimpse of the old Guy, if a bit more restrained, and even gave us back the "Warriors" bar... surely it can't be that bad, if only for that?

The Vuldarian thing though... huh, come to think of it, yeah... I thought he was supposed to be the last of them.

I agree with Mister Ed on this one for the most part. There were some enjoyable moments to it, but for the most part it felt a little hollow. I didn't really *enjoy* it, nor did I feel that Chaykin really *got* Guy (Or G'Nort for that matter. Uh, wtf- I already miss old school, bumbling, big-schoolgirl-crush-on-Guy G'Nort D: ).

Also, the art was ugggh. Although I admit that back in the 80's, Mr. Chaykin was responsible for one of my favorite Guy images:

[Mister Ed]

I didn't like it that much. Some reasons...

1.) While I didn't mind the Warrior POWERS, the Vuldarian backstory always seemed stupid to me, and every time they had issues focusing on that, I always cringed. And this one doesn't even stay consisten with THAT, since Guy was supposed to be the LAST Vuldarian, by a few millenia. Yet in this, it doesn't seem anybody is particularly surprised, even, that there are still Vuldarians around.

2.) G'nort didn't seem like G'nort, either visually OR personality-wise. Not sure why they used G'nort at all, if they weren't going to make him recognizable in some way.

3.) Guy took a giant leap backward. In this he was back to being a total, misogynistic jerk just for the sake of being a jerk. He didn't seem like he could care less about doing the right thing, but was just in it for the chance to look macho and blow stuff up. I thought we had left that shallow interpretation of Guy behind.

I much prefer Guy as we see him now. Heart of Gold under a rough exterior, and when he acts like a REAL jerk, you can tell he is doing it mainly to push somebody's buttons (usually somebody that the reader feels deserves it, too), not because he is really that big a jerk.