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  • Bottomline, What happened to the Vuldarian powers

    I didn't really like the vuldarian powers but I don't think they should just disappear. Was there a story i missed that explains why, and if not does anyone know?

  • #2
    They seemed to have just vanished during "Rebirth". His body was rejecting them or some such thing and then when he was on the operating table and the duplicated ring appeared, all his problems just vanished.

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    • #3
      "His Human DNA is overwriting his vuldarian DNA" - Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onzz)

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      • #4
        I always assumed that when the Parallax entity was taking over John, Guy and Kilowog it forced had to force Guy's body to reject the alien DNA. Basically forcing him to just be human again in order to take control of him. Technically at the time Parallax had the power of the Spectre at his beck & call so he woulda been far more powerful at the time.

        How's that? Do I get a 'no-prize'?
        -Erik

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ringslinger74 View Post
          I always assumed that when the Parallax entity was taking over John, Guy and Kilowog it forced had to force Guy's body to reject the alien DNA. Basically forcing him to just be human again in order to take control of him. Technically at the time Parallax had the power of the Spectre at his beck & call so he woulda been far more powerful at the time.

          How's that? Do I get a 'no-prize'?
          -Erik
          Well, obviously one doesn't have to be fully (or even faintly) human to be controlled by Parallax, or else how would it have taken Kilowog?

          I just took it as a sort of twisted wish fulfillment, like it was doing with Hal (starting to rebuild Coast City), or John (making him more assertive). Deep down Guy missed being a GL, so it was taking him back to that point in his life, which involved ridding him of the Vuldarian junk that had been tacked on.

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          • #6
            They are THANKFULLY gone. Hopefully they will NEVER be even MENTIONED again in the comics.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mister Ed View Post
              Well, obviously one doesn't have to be fully (or even faintly) human to be controlled by Parallax, or else how would it have taken Kilowog?

              I just took it as a sort of twisted wish fulfillment, like it was doing with Hal (starting to rebuild Coast City), or John (making him more assertive). Deep down Guy missed being a GL, so it was taking him back to that point in his life, which involved ridding him of the Vuldarian junk that had been tacked on.
              I'm down with that...as long as the end result is that Guy is human and not some pink tattooed redneck. Sometimes you just have to accept stuff in comics 'as is' and not read to much into it.

              -Erik

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              • #8
                The Guy thing probably was meant to be a SBPP. It just kinda happened with no real "how" or "why" explanation given to it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ringslinger74 View Post
                  I'm down with that...as long as the end result is that Guy is human and not some pink tattooed redneck. Sometimes you just have to accept stuff in comics 'as is' and not read to much into it.

                  -Erik
                  Hey, thats what i said about ET but you know, its easy to "not read to much into it" when its something you like but when its not to your liking than its a different story
                  but i still hate the powers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PowerRingE3 View Post
                    Hey, thats what i said about ET but you know, its easy to "not read to much into it" when its something you like but when its not to your liking than its a different story
                    but i still hate the powers
                    Well, the way I handled ET was to, after slogging through it, just pretending in my head that it had been handled in a somewhat competent and sensible/believable manner. I didn't have a real problem with the RESULTS of ET, and enjoyed Kyle's run from the get-go, so I had no problem just ignoring ET as written, and sort of retroactively assuming that the new status quo was arrived at in a decent manner (even though, IMHO, that wasn't even remotely true).

                    I guess if I was one of those that couldn't stand Kyle's character, or felt that it was literally impossible for Hal to ever crack for ANY reason, then I would have been out of luck, as the new status quo would have been an ongoing ordeal. But for somebody that enjoyed Kyle's story, and felt that Hal COULD have snapped (just that ET did a lousy job of portraying that, as well as leaving massive plot holes for the sake of convenience of easy "storytelling"), reading Kyle's run was just fine, since I could just ignore EXACTLY how we got there.

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                    • #11
                      I am in the minority here I liked Warrior, I liked everything about it and about the Guy Series for that matter. I thought it was an amazingly stupid retcon to do any with them. I mean Guy almost never used them anymore anyway. He could have been a GL with Vuld powers. But no the Big 90s Esc button was hit and his powers are gone.

                      I still say that sometime in the future we'll see a story where Guy gets his ass handed to him and his ring runs out of juice with no back up GLs anywhere in sight and BOOM we have Warrior appear again and thats how he makes it out, sure a little God from the Machine but hey I like the Warrior stuff and thats how I see to get it back.
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                      • #12
                        I agree with you, Jim, but at the same time I will give credit where credit is due -- they could have easily just had Guy show up at the end of Rebirth, no explanation whatsoever for his absense of Vuldarian powers. At least in Rebirth they show the "what" of it, even if not necessarily the specifics of the "how."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Andrew NDB View Post
                          I agree with you, Jim, but at the same time I will give credit where credit is due -- they could have easily just had Guy show up at the end of Rebirth, no explanation whatsoever for his absense of Vuldarian powers. At least in Rebirth they show the "what" of it, even if not necessarily the specifics of the "how."
                          They could have but I think the fan outrage would have been massive. From what I got out of it, Everything was shifting back to the way it was before Parallax entered Hal, I wasnt ever sure on why that was. I really think they could have done something to explain how it happened, as it is I stick with my opinion

                          They Hit the 90s Esc Button
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GLJIMT View Post
                            They could have but I think the fan outrage would have been massive. From what I got out of it, Everything was shifting back to the way it was before Parallax entered Hal, I wasnt ever sure on why that was. I really think they could have done something to explain how it happened, as it is I stick with my opinion

                            They Hit the 90s Esc Button
                            Hell, they hit the 90s ESC Button 2 or 3 more times and that decades gone.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PowerRingE3 View Post
                              Hell, they hit the 90s ESC Button 2 or 3 more times and that decades gone.
                              there was alot of good that came out of the 90s Kyle being the obvious and Warrior being second choice.
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