Green Lantern Corps #34 *Preview/Spoilers*

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

I'm just tired of seeing a broken down sad John Stewart.

With zero context or background in the "New 52," I might add.

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

I have to agree with SL that it was a dumb relationship to begin with. Even though John didn't cause the death of her planet, is it really believable that the lone survivor of Xanshi would hook up with him? I mean if you were the last person who survived earth and you found out someone could've saved it but messed up, do you really think you'd jump in the sack with them? Sure, if you're really a forgiving person, maybe you could realize it was a mistake, but could you actually live with and love that person and not think about it? They were right to end a dumb coupling. Give John someone a little more reasonable. Heck, Arisia is single now!

[weareborg Guy's Drinking Buddy Find all posts View Profile Close weareborg]

I have to agree with SL that it was a dumb relationship to begin with. Even though John didn't cause the death of her planet, is it really believable that the lone survivor of Xanshi would hook up with him? I mean if you were the last person who survived earth and you found out someone could've saved it but messed up, do you really think you'd jump in the sack with them? Sure, if you're really a forgiving person, maybe you could realize it was a mistake, but could you actually live with and love that person and not think about it? They were right to end a dumb coupling. Give John someone a little more reasonable. Heck, Arisia is single now!

I thought the farther away from the center of the emotional spectrum the more powerful and uncontrollable the urges were? I'm not going to argue that having Fatality and John in a relationship was illogical.

However, I thought the ring 'made' her love John because of his fight for her planet. If that's the case, how is a Duralan able to fight the urge of love, or even use the ring with out love. For me personally this is another fuck up by this creative team, and I wish they would worry more about writing their own stories rather than trying to retconn the last run which was significantly more successful than their's has been.

["Chosen" NOT his black friend Find all posts View Profile Close "Chosen"]

I thought the farther away from the center of the emotional spectrum the more powerful and uncontrollable the urges were? I'm not going to argue that having Fatality and John in a relationship was illogical.

However, I thought the ring 'made' her love John because of his fight for her planet. If that's the case, how is a Duralan able to fight the urge of love, or even use the ring with out love. For me personally this is another fuck up by this creative team, and I wish they would worry more about writing their own stories rather than trying to retconn the last run which was significantly more successful than their's has been.

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

They're not trying to retcon the last run. Johns and Didio certainly wouldn't permit that. The GL Universe is going to stay locked into that very narrow mode of storytelling (everything has to revolve around the "emotional spectrum") for the foreseeable future, as it has been since about 2007 or so. It just sucks that the new creative teams are shackled by some of these editorial constraints. Remember how Didio publicly stated he doesn't want our heroes to have happy lives? John's love life days were numbered. Breaking John and Yrra apart probably wasn't even the writers' idea.

And what difference does it make if the last run made more money? Popularity does not equal quality.

["Chosen" NOT his black friend Find all posts View Profile Close "Chosen"]

Johns doesn't have a say. He's not Publisher or Editor in Chief. Stop blaming him for everything.

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

He's the CCO. You can't tell me that he's got no say in creative matters, especially when it's his vision of Lanternverse we're talking about. I'm not "blaming" him for anything. It's just common sense. If you were one of the powers-that-be, would you let your underlings undo all of your hard work? Or would you give them ground rules on exactly how to proceed?

["Chosen" NOT his black friend Find all posts View Profile Close "Chosen"]

Discussing his responsibilities of his new position as DC's first-ever CCO, Johns said in a statement that "Diane’s asked me to take our comic book world, embrace it (as I do) and use it to lead the creative charge on bringing it all to film, toys, television, video games, animation

Didio and Lee are Co Publishers not Didio and Johns. Everyone seems to always blame Didio and Johns for things when it should be Lee and Didio. That quote just outlined his responsibilities. When it comes to comic creative, he still answers to Lee and Didio.

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

Right. But he's still got authority over creative staff. He's just casting a wider net due to his success. Didio's got direct authority over the books, as he's a publisher. Both of them have power over the editors and writers, and none of those folks are going to go against the wishes of the powers-that-be. They don't want to find themselves out of a job.

["Chosen" NOT his black friend Find all posts View Profile Close "Chosen"]

I give up.

[Star-Lantern Weaponer of Qward Find all posts View Profile Close Star-Lantern]

That retcon was lame, and if it was another writer that did this, it would've been slammed. So now that the relationship is over, it was nothing of interest? Was it always like this? Don't think so.

Now he's back to square one, moping again.

A couple points.

I don't view what happened here as a retcon. Nothing that Van Jensen wrote retroactively changed anything that happened. Fatality was forcibly made a Star Sapphire. That was written by Geoff Johns. Her feelings for John Stewart were either a sham or amplified by like x10,000. In any case, they weren't natural. The first thing she does when she's released from her Star Sapphire crystal is seek out John Stewart to get lovey-dovey with him, if I recall correctly. Something is not right with that situation, considering just before she NATURALLY hated him and wanted to kill him.

It's just that Tomasi and Johns either didn't care they were putting John Stewart in a more or less "fake" relationship (I'm betting on this one), or they never got around to addressing all the issues with that relationship. But Van Jensen did not change anything that they did.

This would be the equivalent of Clark Kent making Lois drink a love potion so that she would love him instead of her having natural feelings for him (which actually sounds like a legitimate plot to a Silver Age comic).

Also, we don't know how John Stewart will handle this situation yet. I'm pretty sure Van Jensen is against having John Stewart moping around all the time. I think John has learned a lot from his "relationship" with Fatality about looking forward to the future instead of being fixated on the past, and he'll apply that principle to his current situation.

["Chosen" NOT his black friend Find all posts View Profile Close "Chosen"]

I'll keep this short because I've already explained myself on this. The only way I would feel somewhat ok with this situation is if it is revealed that the ring has the same type of effect on Carol as it did Fatality. Carol seems to be in complete control of the ring, so why can't Fatality be in control.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

I'll keep this short because I've already explained myself on this. The only way I would feel somewhat ok with this situation is if it is revealed that the ring has the same type of effect on Carol as it did Fatality. Carol seems to be in complete control of the ring, so why can't Fatality be in control.

Perhaps it makes a difference whether you put the ring on willingly? As I recall, the Sapphire Ring DID have a big effect on Carol's personality and motivations on those occasions when she didn't choose to wear it (though who knows how much of that is still in continuity). I'd be fine with there being a difference between what happens when you put the ring on willingly and when it is forced on you, if they were to go that direction (though I doubt it will be specifically addressed).

Also, Fatality was, presumably, mostly changed by the time spent locked inside a big Sapphire crystal (unless THAT'S been retconned out). Wearing the ring may have served simply to maintain the changes wrought by that experience, rather than bringing about such changes simply by wearing it. That would work for me as an explanation, too, if they bothered to use it.

I will admit, though, that I'm not thrilled by the "backwards step" here, if only because I see little point to the whole development of the relationship in the first place if this is what was going to be the final end of it. The story of their relationship has little meaning if the end result is that Fatality feels exactly the same way about John as she did to begin with. Could have skipped the whole thing and still had the same status quo (unless they are going to have John obsessing over it, which I would get tired of very quickly).

[Spectremjm Corps Honor Guard Find all posts View Profile Close Spectremjm]

It's also possible the ring is having an effect on Carol now too, which would explain how she's acting towards Kyle. Love is one of the extremes of the spectrum, so it would make sense it would be more controlling than many of the others, even if the user wasn't entirely aware of the effect.

[Tarmode Green Lantern Initiate Find all posts View Profile Close Tarmode]

brother can't catch a break.Maybe John will get with her down the line again, if not, then hopefully, maintain his focus as a badass GL.