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  • Question about Kyle's Ring

    I looked some, didn't see much. But, is Kyle's ring still DNA locked? Or was the ring Ganthet gave him after his Parallax possession just a normal GL ring?

  • #2
    Most of the abilities of Kyle's ring, including the DNA lock, have been retconned away. His ring is just a standard Corps ring now.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SD80MAC View Post
      Most of the abilities of Kyle's ring, including the DNA lock, have been retconned away. His ring is just a standard Corps ring now.
      That sucks. I always liked the DNA lock and the auto return he programmed into it.

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      • #4
        With enough willpower the rings can come back anyway, as Hal's has a time or two IIRC. Lanterns have even been known to manipulate the energy without the ring being on their finger, the most recent example being the movie after Hal gives Hector his ring....

        ~KL~

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Kid Lantern View Post
          With enough willpower the rings can come back anyway, as Hal's has a time or two IIRC. Lanterns have even been known to manipulate the energy without the ring being on their finger, the most recent example being the movie after Hal gives Hector his ring....

          ~KL~
          I don't think I'd use the movie as canon for anything. Sinestro's got enough will for 30 people and IIRC he got his ring to light just being 3 inches from it, but only under extreme exertion.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Parallax2814 View Post
            I don't think I'd use the movie as canon for anything. Sinestro's got enough will for 30 people and IIRC he got his ring to light just being 3 inches from it, but only under extreme exertion.
            Remote operation of the ring is hardly a movie invention. Hal has done it pretty often over the years. In fact, if I recall correctly, the first time his ring got stolen it was because he was doing experiments to see how far he could get from it and still maintain control. He has several times overridden control of the ring from somebody else who was wearing it and trying to operate it at the time. THAT has always been shown to be difficult, but not impossible.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mister Ed View Post
              Remote operation of the ring is hardly a movie invention. Hal has done it pretty often over the years. In fact, if I recall correctly, the first time his ring got stolen it was because he was doing experiments to see how far he could get from it and still maintain control. He has several times overridden control of the ring from somebody else who was wearing it and trying to operate it at the time. THAT has always been shown to be difficult, but not impossible.
              Now that you've said that, I seem to remember reading a story a long those lines, but not sure when I read it or what issue.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Parallax2814 View Post
                I don't think I'd use the movie as canon for anything. Sinestro's got enough will for 30 people and IIRC he got his ring to light just being 3 inches from it, but only under extreme exertion.
                I know it's not canon, I'm no noob LOL. I was just using it as a more recent example....

                And to be fair, Sinestro's was a new ring with different functions. The one he returned from limbo with was destroyed during Rebirth #5 or #6. He could've still been getting control over the new one....

                Originally posted by Mister Ed View Post
                Remote operation of the ring is hardly a movie invention. Hal has done it pretty often over the years. In fact, if I recall correctly, the first time his ring got stolen it was because he was doing experiments to see how far he could get from it and still maintain control. He has several times overridden control of the ring from somebody else who was wearing it and trying to operate it at the time. THAT has always been shown to be difficult, but not impossible.
                Beat me to it. Kyle actually controlled his ring pretty well against Amon Sur during that GL/GA crossover with the Black Circle. And he only ever mentioned upgrading his ring with an auto-return and a larger reserve, so working with the energy away from the ring doesn't seem to be hard if you've got the will.

                ~KL~

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                • #9
                  Kyle's ring being remote controlled was a new feature he put into it using his Ion powers. The implicit retcon is that the rings couldn't do this in the past (in fairness, although they could it was hardly ever used).

                  None of his ring's special features apply anymore. And I believe they retconned it so that his ring was never special. It was unique in that it could overcome yellow, but that was due to Parallax escaping and Kyle knowing fear than anything special int he ring.

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                  • #10
                    The only upgrades he talked about in #150 were the auto return and the larger reserve charge he explained with "not needing to recharge as often" or something like that. I don't think he said anything indicating the remote control usage was some new feature to Green Arrow. GA just commented he didn't care for it sending them video feed from Amon Sur in the toilet.

                    ~KL~

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Kid Lantern View Post
                      The only upgrades he talked about in #150 were the auto return and the larger reserve charge he explained with "not needing to recharge as often" or something like that. I don't think he said anything indicating the remote control usage was some new feature to Green Arrow. GA just commented he didn't care for it sending them video feed from Amon Sur in the toilet.

                      ~KL~
                      I can look it up (and I likely will since I have this issue on my PC), but I'm very sure it was one of his new upgrades. That he was sick and tired of having his ring taken away, so he made it so he could control it easily even if it was off his finger.

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                      • #12
                        I memorized the first few pages of issue #149 I read that arc so much. He did mention the ring won't get away from him again or something along those lines, but at best he said "I can control the ring to come back to me" which is a far cry from "I can give you my ring and watch you go to the bathroom while I manipulate the energy to make a computer while trapped inside of a stasis field."

                        I'd look it up but I don't think I have those issues anywhere I can get to at the moment....

                        ~KL~

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                        • #13
                          Every fucking Green Lantern ring should have some kind of failsafe that only allows one sentient being to operate it and only if their mental capacities aren't compromised.

                          Any writer (even the ones I like) who show someone other than the designated Lantern using a ring is being stupid.

                          STUPID I TELLS YA!

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                          • #14
                            ^^What he said.^^
                            Time,Space and Will Power

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dr. Naysay View Post
                              Every fucking Green Lantern ring should have some kind of failsafe that only allows one sentient being to operate it and only if their mental capacities aren't compromised.

                              Any writer (even the ones I like) who show someone other than the designated Lantern using a ring is being stupid.

                              STUPID I TELLS YA!
                              Well, even if we don't want to install a new capability that the Corps rings have (obviously) never been shown to have, they should, at the VERY least, be able to refuse to be operated by someone who doesn't meet the Green Lantern selection criteria. We know the rings CAN somehow sense who is a good candidate (even if the selection criteria probably need to be rewritten a bit), so why would they ever work for somebody that they didn't select?

                              Even if we say that, somehow, it is not possible to lock them to a particular being (hey, it's possible. Do YOU know how a power ring works? Didn't think so. ) we already KNOW they have the ability to seek out a replacement, apparently even without Mogo. So how hard could it be to make it so they won't work unless they are on a suitable candidate? Like Thor's hammer. You might still get some odd edge cases with people that were able to use the ring because the ring's selection criteria were not specific enough, but it should weed out the average criminal.

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