Green Lantern: New Guardians #19 *Preview/Spoilers*

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GLNG #16 clearly showed Kyle's dead body with Ganthet gloating over it. When he was resurrected, he jumped from violet directly into white.

It doesn't show him dead though. Yes Ganthet is standing over him, the next page shows him in the same state. And he's healed when he embraced love like I said previously. If he was dead, wouldn't the ring have left his body like during blackest night?

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Yeah, no kidding. Hard to move when you're dead.

The fact remains: it's all due to poor writing.

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I was pretty sure he wasn't dead, but didn't have the time to look for the proof. Nice job.

It doesn't show him dead though. Yes Ganthet is standing over him, the next page shows him in the same state. And he's healed when he embraced love like I said previously. If he was dead, wouldn't the ring have left his body like during blackest night?

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Yeah, no kidding. Hard to move when you're dead.

The fact remains: it's all due to poor writing.

It's hard to talk if you're dead too huh?

You interpreted it wrong it's ok. It's right there in your face! The writing wasn't poor neither was the depiction of the scene's art.

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You mean the art while Kyle had his chest blasted out from the back? That's a kill shot, clear as day, as is Kyle's dead body in what, the next panel? Panel after? Don't have the issue handy, but I know he started being resurrected on the next page or so.

The white ring is contradictory as of #19, and that's bad writing, any way you slice it. Sadly all of the GL books have suffered from it for quite some time.

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There is no inconsistency with the white ring if it was never stated you have to be dead in order to wield one (which is the case with a black lantern ring). You are taking circumstantial evidence and trying to get a conviction out of it. It would be like drawing the conclusion that if the first four players to ever play 2nd base for the Mets all had blue eyes and blonde hair, that you therefore have to have blonde hair and blue eyes to play 2nd base for the Mets.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

You mean the art while Kyle had his chest blasted out from the back? That's a kill shot, clear as day, as is Kyle's dead body in what, the next panel? Panel after? Don't have the issue handy, but I know he started being resurrected on the next page or so.

The white ring is contradictory as of #19, and that's bad writing, any way you slice it. Sadly all of the GL books have suffered from it for quite some time.

Nothing ever established that there was only one way to get a white ring. Kyle's whole quest to master the emotional spectrum at the VERY least established that there was another method aside from dying, since none of the other White Lanterns ever had to do that. He became a White Lantern when he mastered Love, and whether you think it is realistic (in a comic book!) for him to have survived a massive energy blast going through his chest, he WAS clearly still alive.

For that matter, we never saw an actual HOLE in his chest. It could well have been just pure energy coursing through him, roasting him without actually leaving a hole. That might well leave him alive long enough to mutter a few sentences, especially when he's wearing a magic ring that has been been show able to make people remarkably durable in the past.

Call it bad writing if you will, or just say that you don't like it. I might agree with you on that score. But I don't think the evidence supports the notion that you MUST die to become a White Lantern, so I don't see how that aspect is a contradiction.

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You mean the art while Kyle had his chest blasted out from the back? That's a kill shot, clear as day, as is Kyle's dead body in what, the next panel? Panel after? Don't have the issue handy, but I know he started being resurrected on the next page or so.

The white ring is contradictory as of #19, and that's bad writing, any way you slice it. Sadly all of the GL books have suffered from it for quite some time.

I posted both of the pages... the proof is right there! Come on man!!

I was pretty sure he wasn't dead, but didn't have the time to look for the proof. Nice job.

Thanks

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I posted both of the pages... the proof is right there! Come on man!!

It's ok. It's ok.

We're here for you. Don't let the mean man get you down.

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I'm going to have to go with the guys here and say we don't know that you had to be dead/resurrected to receive the white ring. It would've had to been stated to be sure. You could just as easily say you have to be a male.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

Well, you couldn't really say that, given that some females were White Lanterns at the end of Blackest Night.

[Michael Heide Heide Finition Find all posts View Profile Close Michael Heide]

Does it count that Baz was in the Dead Zone?

Just two posts here, and yet there is so much wisdom in this. If it is a necessity to have been dead at one point in the past (and that is still a very debatable if), then Baz fits that bill. For all accounts and purposes, he was dead. And if that isn't enough, feel free to retcon a scene into his childhood in which he drowned, his heart stopped, his brother gave him CPR and the paramedics brought him back.

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Just two posts here, and yet there is so much wisdom in this. If it is a necessity to have been dead at one point in the past (and that is still a very debatable if), then Baz fits that bill. For all accounts and purposes, he was dead. And if that isn't enough, feel free to retcon a scene into his childhood in which he drowned, his heart stopped, his brother gave him CPR and the paramedics brought him back.

I actually almost posted that possibility, that we don't know that Baz didn't have a near death experience in the past. The reality is being dead as a prerequisite to be a white lantern is a possible truth, but unproven. I can honestly say when I read Blackest Night that didn't strike me at all as a point they were trying to make.

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Well, you couldn't really say that, given that some females were White Lanterns at the end of Blackest Night.

Yeah, I guess I was thinking more of Sinestro and Hal then the resurrected 12 (or however many). Was there a difference between the power Sinestro and Hal both had and the regular white rings Deadman, Hawk and Dove, etc had? I can't remember anymore.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

Yeah, I guess I was thinking more of Sinestro and Hal then the resurrected 12 (or however many). Was there a difference between the power Sinestro and Hal both had and the regular white rings Deadman, Hawk and Dove, etc had? I can't remember anymore.

I was thinking this picture: