Should jade cheating on kyle be retconned away

[Power Ring Torch Bearer Find all posts View Profile Close Power Ring]

Jade is/was "human", people fuck up. Doesn't make them bad, just means they make mistakes.

[redjirachi Star Sapphire's Love Slave Find all posts View Profile Close redjirachi]

Shingo, didnt you know that with flings it comes down to:

Woman: 1= Ho-bag

Men: 25= He might need to tone it down.

Woman: 1=Ho-bag
Men:1=Manwhore
It's only fair

[Tarmode Green Lantern Initiate Find all posts View Profile Close Tarmode]

No, I don't think Jade cheating on Kyle should be retconned away.It is what it is.It will make him stronger down the line, and then his relationship he has now will hopefully have more meaning.

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No, I don't think Jade cheating on Kyle should be retconned away.It is what it is.It will make him stronger down the line, and then his relationship he has now will hopefully have more meaning.

Exactly,it was character development for Kyle Rayner

[Levy Fatality's Blacksmith Find all posts View Profile Close Levy]

Excuse me, but no.

Jen's cheating didn't affected Kyle's terrible attitude when it comes to strong feelings. He really is a sweet guy but self-centered like a three-years old kid when he is suffering. Loosing Jen should have teached him that you are gonna lose precious things if you do not take care of them properly - just like when he let Donna push him away - but a page later Jen has dumped him, he is again brooding about HIS goals in life and HIS place in the world. It's all about him all over again, and it goes on this way even now.

What affected Kyle significantly was Jen's death rather than her cheating, but that made him considerably more fragile if anything... nothing like Alex's death, that made Kyle stronger and that was intended to be character development.

Jen's cheating was editorial mandate in a moment in wich the last thing DC wanted was to develop Kyle's character, they were simply pushing him away from Earth and therefore cutting all of his ties with Earth - up to the absurdity of his father no longer being his father. It is involution rather than evolution.

Otherwise, breaking up with Kyle could have been -and actually was, even if not as awesome as it could - great character development for Jade. She had little time on her own, though, before being killed abruptly. So long for you indipendence, Jen...!
I have a (tiny) hope that this idea of Jenny living her life for herself would be picked up now that she's back to life.

Wrapping things up, as I digressed wildly like I usually do:

- Jen's cheating was no real character development for Kyle
- it could have been great character development for Jen but the signals we have so far go rather in the opposite direction
- the only thing that came out of it was fanboys sympathizing with Kyle out of cock solidariety and a permanent label of slut for Jenny

- all this considered, RETCONS STINKS and it would be just ridicolous to retcon such an everyday life thing away... really, WTF?!?

[missferris Senior Corps Member Find all posts View Profile Close missferris]

Excuse me, but no.

Jen's cheating didn't affected Kyle's terrible attitude when it comes to strong feelings. He really is a sweet guy but self-centered like a three-years old kid when he is suffering. Loosing Jen should have teached him that you are gonna lose precious things if you do not take care of them properly - just like when he let Donna push him away - but a page later Jen has dumped him, he is again brooding about HIS goals in life and HIS place in the world. It's all about him all over again, and it goes on this way even now.

What affected Kyle significantly was Jen's death rather than her cheating, but that made him considerably more fragile if anything... nothing like Alex's death, that made Kyle stronger and that was intended to be character development.

Jen's cheating was editorial mandate in a moment in wich the last thing DC wanted was to develop Kyle's character, they were simply pushing him away from Earth and therefore cutting all of his ties with Earth - up to the absurdity of his father no longer being his father. It is involution rather than evolution.

Otherwise, breaking up with Kyle could have been -and actually was, even if not as awesome as it could - great character development for Jade. She had little time on her own, though, before being killed abruptly. So long for you indipendence, Jen...!
I have a (tiny) hope that this idea of Jenny living her life for herself would be picked up now that she's back to life.

Wrapping things up, as I digressed wildly like I usually do:

- Jen's cheating was no real character development for Kyle
- it could have been great character development for Jen but the signals we have so far go rather in the opposite direction
- the only thing that came out of it was fanboys sympathizing with Kyle out of cock solidariety and a permanent label of slut for Jenny

- all this considered, RETCONS STINKS and it would be just ridicolous to retcon such an everyday life thing away... really, WTF?!?

It seems like they are just ignoring the affair, too, like it's some "forbidden" thing to mention. They just talk about Jen's death and Kyle's eternal love for her and the breakup, but not really what caused it. And hahaa, yessss, thank you for this post. Jade's cheating did crap for Kyle, it existed for the last thing tying Kyle to earth to be taken away from him (well, other than his mother being alive), and pushing him away from that planet. And as you said, it could have been great development for Jen, but it's not like DC ever cared about that in the first place.

[Levy Fatality's Blacksmith Find all posts View Profile Close Levy]

Yeah they never really cared about making this big step positive for her, she was just used in order to push Kyle in a certain direction and that's it.

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I don't like Jen. Maybe I'll like her more when her whole world isn't revolved around Kyle. GO SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FATHER AND BROTHER, GREENIE.

[missferris Senior Corps Member Find all posts View Profile Close missferris]

That is Kyle's fault for being a character-killer for every woman he is around.

[Sylent_Asassin Black Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close Sylent_Asassin]

I say no... and no more rectons!! As bad as the writing was and as out of character as it seemed for Jade, it was a defining moment for Kyle and Green Lantern history. Were Kyle a lesser man, he could have went Koo-koo for Cocoa Puffs started hacking shit up before taking more outer space missions. Instead of looking at Jade's betrayal, try looking at Kyle's strength.

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

It won't be retconned. It was just mentioned in JSA #42, actually.

[redjirachi Star Sapphire's Love Slave Find all posts View Profile Close redjirachi]

It seems like they are just ignoring the affair, too, like it's some "forbidden" thing to mention. They just talk about Jen's death and Kyle's eternal love for her and the breakup, but not really what caused it. And hahaa, yessss, thank you for this post. Jade's cheating did crap for Kyle, it existed for the last thing tying Kyle to earth to be taken away from him (well, other than his mother being alive), and pushing him away from that planet. And as you said, it could have been great development for Jen, but it's not like DC ever cared about that in the first place.

That's because they were going to kill her off soon,and probably didn't think they'd be bringing her back."Why waste development for this if she's going to be fridge'd soon" was what the writers/editors thought.I wish she lampshaded this as a Black Lantern like Alex,it would've been funny

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

If you're going to go that far, I'd say retcon their entire relationship away. The whole thing was a waste of page space . . .

Aww. I liked that relationship, especially when she was a GL b/c I think it'd make sense for GLs to be together, and partly b/c it would be cool to have a green girlfriend. I mean how many guys can say they have a natural green girlfriend?

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I think, while people didn't really like it, it makes for a good story. It's something we reference and talk about a lot. So. No. In no way do I feel it needs to be retconned.

[Tazer That Evil, Yellow Bastiche Find all posts View Profile Close Tazer]

Yo.

That's because they were going to kill her off soon,and probably didn't think they'd be bringing her back."Why waste development for this if she's going to be fridge'd soon" was what the writers/editors thought.I wish she lampshaded this as a Black Lantern like Alex,it would've been funny

can we really consider 2 YEARS LATER to be "soon"??




Tazer