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Reading over GL 47-51 I started thinking, all the Guardians gave Ganthet their power. At the same time Hal entered the central power battery and became Parallax. Now if we all still think that this is the original pre-retcon not a fearbug Parallax, but the Hal with lots of central power battery energy Parallax. Do you think if Ganthet wanted to stop Hal there, could he have done it? Did he have the power to do it?
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It seemed like he didn't want to stop Hal. Even the other Guardians assumed blame that they'd done wrong to Hal, and were kind of resigned to let him enact their punishment for them. -
It was the conversation between the guardians in issue 50 about how Ganthet was right, and he always argued with them about actually taking action. Then he gets the power and disappears. Well, he had the power.......Comment
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Didn't he "merge" with Hal after Parallax view? And after that, Hal just chased the Cyborg around, as opposed to harrassing Kyle for his ring or trying to destroy reality. You could say he *did* stop Hal.
Someone should ask Marz why he had the Gurdians kill themselves though. The only guess I could make is that it was to make Ganthet strong enough to make a last, perfect GL ring and battery that didn't rely on the CPB, but ... that's just a guess. And I don't see why it couldn't have been a group effort.
Edit: If you mean stopping Hal directly after he absorbed the battery, Ganthet seemed to be unconsious just after the other Gurdians died. He's not standing as Hal walks through the dead bodies of the Gurdians.Last edited by Gauntlet101010; 07-24-2008, 04:07 AM.Comment
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Lately I subscribe to the theory that Ganthet inserted Ion into Hal when he "merged" with Hal, to balance him out. Same as the latest SF&O explains as the reason why Ion and Parallax were both kept in the Central Power Battery... Ion keeps Parallax in check.Originally posted by Gauntlet101010 View PostComment
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Well thats kinda what Ganthet did, remember after he entered Hal it showed him sitting on a asteroid or something out in space having a wakeing dream of sorts of still being Coast Citys GL. It was I think Ganthet's way of giving Hal some thearpy.
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YES, why he didn't we may never know
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You know, I don't know about after Hal absorbed the power of the CPB and after Ganthet seemed to absorb the power of the other Gurdians, but before then ... when he killed Kilowog and they finally confronted Hal ... they could have ended it right then and there. I don't know why they all just decided to give up the ghost! They just stand there as Hal destroys the CBP.Originally posted by IonFan View Post
Even accounting for the ish of Guy Gardner, where we see a LOT of dead GL bodies, that can't be the entire corps. And, even if it was ... isn't that all the more reaon to stop him? If Marz ever does another interview, I'd like to ask him about this. I'm just curious as to what he was trying to show (it's sort of a moot point now).Comment
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I think the Guardians' reluctance to act directly was exaggerated to cartoonish proportions until it was an utter INABILITY to act directly. This certainly doesn't fit with what we had seen of them before, and doesn't fit with what we saw of Ganthet before OR after ET, so really one is left to wonder why none of the Guardians, including Ganthet, saw fit to restrain Hal when he was POWERLESS, right before entering the battery.Originally posted by Gauntlet101010 View Post
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my theory was similar but just that ion was also absorbed while hal was in the battery, however the idea that ganthet merged with hal he borught ION with him, is much more plausible. I do think that when ganthet left in final night, he left ion inside hal so that he would have the power to defeat the sun eaterOriginally posted by Andrew NDB View PostComment
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well technically, that would be becuz 99% of the Oans were dead.Originally posted by Mister Ed View Post
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Even if we read it as one intentional never-ending story, without different writers, editors and influences, I think Ganthet's inaction fits the story. Either he was feeling bad about how it played out, like the others OR he knew the results would be the same.
And whether Kyle was a purposeful destiny choice, or a random kid in an alley, Ganthet seemingly knew it was time for the GLC to move on.
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Um, no. All the Guardians were still alive at the point at which Hal took off his ring and, powerless, proceeded to enter the CPB. All the Guardians, including Ganthet, just stood there like dunces when they could easily have restrained him, vaporized him, or banished him to Qward (if they wanted to stick with actions they had already personally taken in the past to deal with renegades).Originally posted by Tazer View PostYo.
well technically, that would be becuz 99% of the Oans were dead.
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I don't blame them for standing by and watching it happen really. They saw the absolute impossiable happen. Something that had only happened once before when Doomsday got to OA through the Corps. Hal decimated the Corps for all intents and puropses on his way to OA, looking at that original story nevermind the Geoff-Cons Hal killed or severaly wounded every GL sent against him. He breached OA and used the rings he had stolen to atomize Kilowog. Could you in the state of shock they had to be actually do more than watch. They were in massive shock and their last desperate attempt to save anything was to pass their energys and knowlage to Ganthet. Plus Marz didn't have alot of time to build the scripts for those 3 issues so you know alot of it was rushed. It had to be to get done what they wanted.
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*reareads a page of Parallax view pt. 2*Originally posted by Darth_Andrea View PostI don't blame them for standing by and watching it happen really. They saw the absolute impossiable happen. Something that had only happened once before when Doomsday got to OA through the Corps. Hal decimated the Corps for all intents and puropses on his way to OA, looking at that original story nevermind the Geoff-Cons Hal killed or severaly wounded every GL sent against him. He breached OA and used the rings he had stolen to atomize Kilowog. Could you in the state of shock they had to be actually do more than watch. They were in massive shock and their last desperate attempt to save anything was to pass their energys and knowlage to Ganthet. Plus Marz didn't have alot of time to build the scripts for those 3 issues so you know alot of it was rushed. It had to be to get done what they wanted.
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The given explanation is that, before they were destroyed, the Gurdians pooled their essence into Ganthet so that he might survive in order to pass the ring on. This implies the destruction of the battery also destroyed the Gurdians.
Gotta admit, the Gurdians don't do much in Vol 3. I think I agree with Ed on this one. Their hesitation to take action was taken to the extreme of the complete inability to act. Remember though, that they did scourge the universe free of magic. Personally.
I recall a scene in GL100 (the Kyle and Hal team up) where Sinestro had the Gurdians in his clutches. Hal remarks that they weren't likely to fight back.
Marz might have had to kill the Gurdians .... I'll grant, he didn't get much time. But, the story doesn't hold up so well now that I'm older. The solution to killing the Gurdians could have been handled more elegantly.Last edited by Gauntlet101010; 08-03-2008, 06:11 AM.Comment
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