Green Lantern #14 *Preview/Spoilers*

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

Jerks, yes, but NEVER evil. And by the end of the Ion storyarc, when Kyle "resurrected" them...they were children so they could learn to temper their actions with lifelong experience instead of being jerks. (Something else Johns conveniently ignored.)

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

Can't help but disagree. I'm reminded when they decided it'd be a fantastic idea to program the CPB to explode is a Krugerian ever suffered death at their hands or the hands of the GLC ... and then left without telling anyone.

Or their how they hid the truth that touching Krona's servants in that "third law" story would shorten the lives of the GLs who fought against them (Ganthet went against their wishes and told the GLC this, the other Guardians were fine letting it happen).

Or how they let Jhon charge on the newly reconstructed CPB in Vol 3, seemingly knowing that would free Sinestro's spirit (didn't read Mosaic, but they kinda jerked him around in that Vol 3 story).

There's a lot of times where they were kind of jerks.

Well, your first example wasn't an intentional move by the writer, since when the Guardians left, nobody had even thought of that bizarre tidbit of a story point. But your other points are exactly what I was saying. They were jerks, they were insensitive, but they weren't evil. And the wisdom of their decisions was generally agreed to by the GLs, even if they took issue with the jerkiness of the execution of them. Hal went along with the Guardians' plans in the Third Law even after he found out about that little caveat, because he realized it was the only thing to do. John came to recognize the wisdom of the Guardians' action with the Mosaic, even as he vowed to not be just like them as a newly raised Guardian (and the Guardians agreed with that, too).

[Gauntlet101010 Alpha-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close Gauntlet101010]

But I am saying that it isn't that big of a leap from insesnitive and out of touch to being evil.

I bring up that last story to point out that the Guardians aren't always wise. The story point is absurd ... and it makes the Guardians seem immensely foolish. So, even when they are written as benevolent, they do foolish things at times.

It's not that they were evil for witholding information during the third law arc ..... but it isn't too far from it. Didn't read all of Mosaic, but again, they didn't play it straight with John during that first arc in Vol. 3. Again, not exactly evil but it's not a large leap from the guys who put Jhon where they wanted him to become evil.

To me, being detached and calculating isn't a far leap from being evil. Yes, Johns' take is a departure from the benevelent, but detached Guardians ... but it's not a total leap in logic either. If you get detached enough good and evil just look like words. That's where the Guardians are now.

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

No, the current Guardians have brutally tortured and murdered people, and continue to do so. That's not detached, that's evil.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

But I am saying that it isn't that big of a leap from insesnitive and out of touch to being evil.

I bring up that last story to point out that the Guardians aren't always wise. The story point is absurd ... and it makes the Guardians seem immensely foolish. So, even when they are written as benevolent, they do foolish things at times.

It's not that they were evil for witholding information during the third law arc ..... but it isn't too far from it. Didn't read all of Mosaic, but again, they didn't play it straight with John during that first arc in Vol. 3. Again, not exactly evil but it's not a large leap from the guys who put Jhon where they wanted him to become evil.

To me, being detached and calculating isn't a far leap from being evil. Yes, Johns' take is a departure from the benevelent, but detached Guardians ... but it's not a total leap in logic either. If you get detached enough good and evil just look like words. That's where the Guardians are now.

I think it is a big leap, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. Doing essentially the right thing, but in an insensitive way, is to my mind a far cry from being evil. Even the case of the Korugarian thing, it seems like their actions were somewhat wise in setting the failsafe. The foolish part arises mainly from the fact that the writer that came up with that idea didn't take into consideration what had gone before, so they looked foolish in retrospect for leaving without telling anybody about it, even though when their leaving was written, there was no such secret to tell. (Actually the stupidest part about that whole notion was that we were supposed to believe that they would actually pick a Korugarian GL, and allow him to dispense justice ON KORUGAR-that they would in fact let ANY GL anywhere near Korugar- without at the VERY least watching him every second of every day to make sure he didn't accidentally destroy the entire GLC. The moral of this story, for me, is that being forced to quickly come up with a reason to destroy the GLC never works out well. )

[CeltiC5-27 Weaponer of Qward Find all posts View Profile Close CeltiC5-27]

Loved this issue! And not because of Baz, but because of everyone else. It was cool seeing more of the first lantern, Black Hand, and the other guardians. I also loved the JL in this, I liked how they didn't just attack Baz and it was nice to see Flash have a bigger role than in the JL book. Oh and I'm glad that we are finally starting to see more of Hal and Sinestro, and hopefully they can atleast get a full page all to themselves next issue.

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His sister planted the bomb.

She's the terrorist. (Remember she was in all those scenes too where they were bullied/judged/harassed through time.)

The address she gave him is an ambush waiting...others wanting to get ahold of that ring as a weapon for their cause.

Hero betrayed by the one he trusts the most, she ends up dying somehow right after the truth is revealed - the manifestation of his conscience turning out to not be everything he projected onto her after all...there's his origin tragedy.

[Hypo Lil' Leaguer Find all posts View Profile Close Hypo]

That's actually not bad.

[GreenLantern888 Alpha-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close GreenLantern888]

His sister planted the bomb.

She's the terrorist. (Remember she was in all those scenes too where they were bullied/judged/harassed through time.)

The address she gave him is an ambush waiting...others wanting to get ahold of that ring as a weapon for their cause.

Hero betrayed by the one he trusts the most, she ends up dying somehow right after the truth is revealed - the manifestation of his conscience turning out to not be everything he projected onto her after all...there's his origin tragedy.

That would be extremely interesting.

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His sister planted the bomb.

She's the terrorist. (Remember she was in all those scenes too where they were bullied/judged/harassed through time.)

The address she gave him is an ambush waiting...others wanting to get ahold of that ring as a weapon for their cause.

Hero betrayed by the one he trusts the most, she ends up dying somehow right after the truth is revealed - the manifestation of his conscience turning out to not be everything he projected onto her after all...there's his origin tragedy.

The only problem is the extreme unlikelihood that in all of the greater Detroit area he happened to pick the van his siter planted a bomb in. Unless they gave new exposition where she somehow slyly put the van in his way or hinted about it.

[SD80MAC Not a True Fan Find all posts View Profile Close SD80MAC]

Review: http://indigotribe.wordpress.com/201...tern-vol-5-14/

[JohnMc Senior Corps Member Find all posts View Profile Close JohnMc]

"I hope it was Gardner" Real classy Geoff. Tell us again how much you "love" Guy.

[Marvelous Iggy God Of Turtles Find all posts View Profile Close Marvelous Iggy]

"I hope it was Gardner" Real classy Geoff. Tell us again how much you "love" Guy.

Or maybe The Flash doesn't like Guy Gardner? Not everything has subtext.

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I kinda wished it was Batman who had said it.

[Space Cop The Dandy Find all posts View Profile Close Space Cop]

So for you Mahnke fans who think he's great, do you actually like that Wonder Woman on the cover? You know, the one that makes Bridget Nielson and Grace Jones look feminine.