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  • "5G" -- DC main characters to be "replaced," including Hal

    Apparently word coming from NYCC is Jon will be aged up further to an adult and will replace Clark as Superman!

    https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10...man-dc-comics/

    ...And apparently, this is what the whole of "5G" is about..replacing all of the veteran heroes with new legacy characters

    https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10...dc-comics-5gt/

    Wonder Woman will be the first title relaunched under the new 5G era in either January 2021 or November 2020, with further relaucnhes occuring each month, each title replacing the veteran hero with an unexpected legacy

    https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10...-dc-comics-5g/

  • #2
    You folks know the definition of insanity, right?

    Oh wait. I bet they'll hold out for as long as they possibly can, then bring back the originals in a huge event that will sell a zillion zillion copies to speculators. Meanwhile the writers can enrich themselves by writing about the own creations, and the "diversity" of the new characters will signal DC's virtue to any SJWs who are still paying attention to comic books.

    It'll be a win-win-win!

    Even though Dan DiDio just said they were going to stop the gimmicks. Apparently he said that to fake us out.
    The pandemic should have ended in the United States in March. You know why it didn't, don't you? Think about that every time you put on a mask.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
      You folks know the definition of insanity, right?

      Oh wait. I bet they'll hold out for as long as they possibly can, then bring back the originals in a huge event that will sell a zillion zillion copies to speculators. Meanwhile the writers can enrich themselves by writing about the own creations, and the "diversity" of the new characters will signal DC's virtue to any SJWs who are still paying attention to comic books.

      It'll be a win-win-win!

      Even though Dan DiDio just said they were going to stop the gimmicks. Apparently he said that to fake us out.
      It's probably a sticky note from their overlords at WB, to be fair.

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      • #4
        You'd think that the more sane approach to this would be to try it out with one hero and see how it goes, not plan out in advance to replace all the icons over a short time frame. Unless it IS just a gimmick that will be reversed in some huge event.

        If it does stick, though, and if the GL replacement dumps ALL the older GLs in favor of Jessica and Simon, or some completely new GL created for the purpose (or worse, some other non-GL DC character repurposed for the role), it'll make a good jumping off point for comics for me. I'm already not thrilled about the darker, grittier direction (or more "mature" as some would call it) that things seem to be headed in general. If they really decide to wholesale replace all the big characters, what would keep me around?
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        • #5
          They've wanted for a long time to chase away all the tiresome, cranky, elderly farts who dominate the message boards and who get hysterical any time their precious childhoods from sixty years ago get "ruined.''

          And I can understand DCs wanting to do that. Those people suck.

          But they're assuming that there's a younger audience out there that's just waiting for a reason to run to the comics shops and spend four dollars a pop on funny books that have protagonists they can "relate to."

          You know, the same idea DC got 25 years ago when it introduced the "younger and hipper" Kyle Rayner. Except that Kyle was a white male, which is now out.

          But that rumored market is in the same category as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny -- there's no such thing. The only people who will pay four dollars for a funny book are those obnoxious old farts who dominate the message boards, and the even more obnoxious speculators.
          Trey Strain
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          Last edited by Trey Strain; 10-07-2019, 09:07 PM.
          The pandemic should have ended in the United States in March. You know why it didn't, don't you? Think about that every time you put on a mask.

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          • #6
            Well this I can't condone. What in heavens are they thinking? And you're correct, I remember DC promising no more gimmicks like this just a bit ago.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Andrew NDB View Post
              Apparently word coming from NYCC is Jon will be aged up further to an adult and will replace Clark as Superman!

              https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10...man-dc-comics/

              ...And apparently, this is what the whole of "5G" is about..replacing all of the veteran heroes with new legacy characters

              https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10...dc-comics-5gt/

              Wonder Woman will be the first title relaunched under the new 5G era in either January 2021 or November 2020, with further relaucnhes occuring each month, each title replacing the veteran hero with an unexpected legacy

              https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/10...-dc-comics-5g/
              The Beat reported that they've been hearing the same rumors so that lends an additional layer of credibility to this, depending on what you may or may not think of Bleeding Cool. They also add that this will be preceded by a crisis type/hypertime related event.

              On one hand I give DC a little bit of credit since they're not repeating the same mistake from the New 52, which was trying to make things accessible by getting rid of previous continuity but at the same time this is clearly not the answer since Marvel just tried to do this with All New All Different Marvel and it bombed.

              Like Trey said the flaw in this approach is that it assumes that there's an untapped audience out there willing to buy monthly comics but intimated by the years of continuity and I just don't think there is, or rather there isn't one big enough to offset the amount of long term readers something like this will alienate.

              I'd much rather DC continue to invest in the kids/YA graphic novel market since we have actual proof that there's a large appetite for that kind of stuff (see this and this), doing that would have a much larger positive impact long term than something like this in my opinion.

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              • #8
                If an author wants to replace a character with another face for a while, let them. But an editorial mandate to do it line wide seems counterproductive.

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                • #9
                  oh this is a great idea......................... if you want to turn the people who really buy your comics away that is

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by IonFan View Post
                    oh this is a great idea......................... if you want to turn the people who really buy your comics away that is


                    Comic sales aren't up to CEO greedy expectations. They are willing to play BINGO with the fanbase. They are loaded already after all. They can afford to take a few risks. Hasn't risks paid off for DC always in the past?


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bOB spelled backwards View Post
                      Comic sales aren't up to CEO greedy expectations. They are willing to play BINGO with the fanbase. They are loaded already after all. They can afford to take a few risks. Hasn't risks paid off for DC always in the past?


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                      If all of these reports are true then you can only be absolutely correct. Sadly.

                      "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to" and all.

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                      • #12
                        It actually makes a bit of sense with some of the characters. I mean, we're within the final 20 years before Superman and Batman enter the public domain, and most of the other main DC heroes follow year by year thereafter, save Barry and Hal. It would be wise to get well ahead of it by introducing and establishing new characters in their iconic roles if they can.

                        Of course, thats probably not the reason they're doing this, but if it were, it would be smart. Instead this feels more like a repeat of the 90's, except instead of some characters getting revamped while others are replaced, they're all just getting replaced.
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                        • #13
                          The stories in Action Comics #1 and Detective Comics #27 will enter the public domain, but won't DC still hold the trademark for Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne?

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                          • #14
                            No, the characters as established therein will enter the public domain. So Superman at DC will have a bunch of abilities that aren't public domain, and both characters at DC will have a bunch of backstories that aren't public domain, but the characters themselves will be public domain. Then as each year passes, more and more of their backstories and powers and villains will enter the public domain, as well.
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                            • #15
                              Does that mean Mickey Mouse will enter the public domain in nine years? It was supposed to happen in 2003, but Disney is very rich and powerful.
                              The pandemic should have ended in the United States in March. You know why it didn't, don't you? Think about that every time you put on a mask.

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