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  • Originally posted by Jeronimo Thompson View Post
    Even the Rachel Pollack's run? It's my understanding that those issues were really weird.
    Oh my lord don't remind me! Rachel Pollcak's DP run was MAYBE the worst thing I have EVER read in comics, and that's saying a LOT. It was SO bad. Attrocious is being too kind describing it. The whole thing was like an outlet for her to dump all of her sexual hangups on the readers.everyone was fucked up sexually, and it was clear she didn't like men. And McKeever's art was god awful, in a way that matched her writing.

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    • Originally posted by Star-Lantern View Post
      I heard that Doom Patrol book is going to get seriously delayed, but I don't keep up with it. I assumed it was because Gerard Way had things he'd rather be doing than writing the comic, but I can't say for sure. If the delay is as bad as I remember hearing, that will likely play havoc with the book's sales performance.

      The delays are bad enough that DC just cancelled the solicits for #7, 8 and 9 and just said they'll resolicit them down the road when the creative team gets caught up. Right now I think DC just wants them to worry about getting #6 done so they can wrap up at least the first arc and pump out the trade for it.

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      • Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post
        Oh my lord don't remind me! Rachel Pollcak's DP run was MAYBE the worst thing I have EVER read in comics, and that's saying a LOT. It was SO bad. Attrocious is being too kind describing it. The whole thing was like an outlet for her to dump all of her sexual hangups on the readers.everyone was fucked up sexually, and it was clear she didn't like men. And McKeever's art was god awful, in a way that matched her writing.
        You really donīt like it

        I remember reading a review of an issue of the Pollack's run in the magazine Hero Illustrated at the time, and concluding that the comic was too "Vertigo" in the worst sense. I never read a page, but from what I saw, it seemed to me that someone might have told her: "the weirder, the cooler!".

        That said, I have to admit that I like the only Rachel Pollack's comic I've ever read: "Time Breakers". Do you know it? It was a five-issue miniseries published by DC under its Helix imprint, focused on the adventures of a group of time travellers who try to save the continuum by creating time paradoxes. A decent science fiction story, well drawn by Chris Weston.

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        • I'm pretty sure that DC is fudging the numbers for Green Lanterns, because they want so badly for it to look good. It doesn't matter though. The sales will eventually drop to a point where they'll have to tap out.

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          • I read a while back that they did that for The New Guardians, because they also very badly wanted that title to succeed. I can't remember how they did it, but I think it had something to do with their accepting returns of unsold copies of The New Guardians from the comics shops.

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            • ^That could be, but Comic Chronicles now seem to lists most titles as "sales not reflecting returnability"; however that works.

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              • Originally posted by Space Cop View Post
                ^That could be, but Comic Chronicles now seem to lists most titles as "sales not reflecting returnability"; however that works.
                I think DC does this with only a few titles -- new ones that they have some special interest in promoting. It encourages the shops to order more copies of those titles than they ordinarily would, because they've got nothing to lose. If you don't sell it, you send it back.

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                • Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
                  I think DC does this with only a few titles -- new ones that they have some special interest in promoting. It encourages the shops to order more copies of those titles than they ordinarily would, because they've got nothing to lose. If you don't sell it, you send it back.
                  You're probably right. The titles with the asterisks are the ones adjust for returnability and there's not as many as I thought looking back.

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                  • Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post



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                    100 Planet of Apes Green Lantern 1 $3.99 Boom 22,712
                    143 Planet of the Apes Green Lantern 2 $3.99 Boom 16,203


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                    116 Star Trek Green Lantern Vol. 2 1* $3.99 IDW 20,853
                    156 Star Trek Green Lantern Vol. 2 2* $3.99 IDW 15,595
                    155 Star Trek Green Lantern Vol. 2 3* $3.99 IDW 14,526
                    167 Star Trek Green Lantern Vol. 2 4* $3.99 IDW 13,643


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                    I'm shocked by these numbers. I'm assuming that there has to be some promotion on official websites/social media/print media for these crossovers, so why aren't more PotA and ST fans interested?
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                    • Originally posted by Big Blue Lantern View Post
                      I'm shocked by these numbers. I'm assuming that there has to be some promotion on official websites/social media/print media for these crossovers, so why aren't more PotA and ST fans interested?
                      Maybe these crossovers of GL with Star Trek and PotA are just too oddball and random to get people interested.

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                      • Originally posted by Trey Strain View Post
                        Maybe these crossovers of GL with Star Trek and PotA are just too oddball and random to get people interested.
                        I think they mesh quite well, but you might be right about non-GL fans' reactions. I visited a couple of ST forums and found that ST fans, at least the ones who posted there, weren't enthusiastic about ST crossing over into other universes. I never would have guessed that.
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                        • Originally posted by Big Blue Lantern View Post
                          I think they mesh quite well, but you might be right about non-GL fans' reactions. I visited a couple of ST forums and found that ST fans, at least the ones who posted there, weren't enthusiastic about ST crossing over into other universes. I never would have guessed that.
                          Well, the point could be that ST fans have such a huge amount of material to control that they would rather be focused on the "official" comics or books, ignoring this type of cross-overs.

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                          • Those crossovers might BE good, but they don't especially SOUND good, and that could be keeping people away.

                            Also, I think a lot of people are turned off by the whole direction of the GL franchise, what with Baz and Cruz being forced upon them and with Geoff's re-imagining of the property having played itself out long ago. And of course Baz and Cruz are just the latest part of Geoff's re-imagining.

                            It's funny that Geoff could see clearly how wrong DC's bottom-up renovation of GL was when the company recklessly nuked everything in favor of Kyle. He deserves great credit for that, because he recognized it when few people did. But then he went and re-imagined it badly himself! The difference was that DC had taken almost everything away, while Geoff added a ton of stuff that utterly drowned out what the property was about. He did take away the Guardians though, and that was a bad idea too. Also, DC did it all at once, but Geoff did it in slow motion, so that Geoff's changes generated much less immediate resistance., and instead very gradually chased readers away.

                            For God's sake, they've always had a classic property there! Why does nobody at DC believe in it, even Geoff? It's never needed such drastic overhauls, which have done great damage in the long run despite the short-term excitement they've generated. What they've always had will sell, with some updating and some smart marketing.
                            Trey Strain
                            Guardian of the Universe
                            Last edited by Trey Strain; 04-17-2017, 12:04 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Big Blue Lantern View Post
                              I think they mesh quite well, but you might be right about non-GL fans' reactions. I visited a couple of ST forums and found that ST fans, at least the ones who posted there, weren't enthusiastic about ST crossing over into other universes. I never would have guessed that.
                              Ever since I was kid and into both properties, I thought there was a natural connection between the Green Lantern Corps and Starfleet. They're both multicultural, universal forces for good that take it upon themselves to keep peace in the galaxy (or their part of it in ST).

                              In fact if a non-comic-reading Trekkie ever asked what comics they would be most likely to enjoy (besides the obvious ST books), I'd point to GL (though most likely the classic GLC stuff).

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                              • The Emotional Spectrum was a good idea for a story, but thatīs all. In fact, at the moment, I was pretty sure all these rainbow corps were going to disappear after Blackest Night. As an eternal contribution to the GL universe, I think they are just dead weight, and I still donīt understand why is DC keeping them inserted in the franchise.

                                With respect to the ST/GL miniseries, as I read the first issue and saw all those rainbow rings, I decided to ignore the cross-over.
                                Jeronimo Thompson
                                Alan's Drycleaner
                                Last edited by Jeronimo Thompson; 04-17-2017, 01:50 PM.

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