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  • Come on Ion! Kyle has always been the sensitive GL. Artistic, emotional and most feminine. Can't you see him wearing a dress and high heels? Think of what a courageous move by DC it would be. And Kyle would be the most fabulous GL of them all!

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    • Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post
      Come on Ion! Kyle has always been the sensitive GL. Artistic, emotional and most feminine. Can't you see him wearing a dress and high heels? Think of what a courageous move by DC it would be. And Kyle would be the most fabulous GL of them all!


      I'm sure Venditti and the rest of the Think Tank thought about it. The thought process would be to give GL a boost in ratings, but if you look at what a similar move did for Alan Scott, that wouldn't be the answer long-term. It might boost ratings for a couple of months, but the traditionalists that kept the title going would probably drop off drastically.

      At this juncture, I think the only thing that would give GL the life paddle treatment is if Geoff Johns resumed writing duties.

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      • Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post
        Come on Ion! Kyle has always been the sensitive GL. Artistic, emotional and most feminine. Can't you see him wearing a dress and high heels? Think of what a courageous move by DC it would be. And Kyle would be the most fabulous GL of them all!
        Plus, he could be the super, bestest transgendered lantern of all time, so Ion would still have that.

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        • Originally posted by Sylent_Asassin View Post


          I'm sure Venditti and the rest of the Think Tank thought about it. The thought process would be to give GL a boost in ratings, but if you look at what a similar move did for Alan Scott, that wouldn't be the answer long-term. It might boost ratings for a couple of months, but the traditionalists that kept the title going would probably drop off drastically.

          At this juncture, I think the only thing that would give GL the life paddle treatment is if Geoff Johns resumed writing duties.
          Geoff sold a hell of a lot of GL comics. But he also took the property in an unsustainable direction, and people forget that it was sharply on the way down at the end of his run. At this point they just need to tap out and reboot it. And you should never let the writer who took a comic in the wrong direction be the one who reboots it.

          GL just needs the emotional spectrum gone, the Guardians and Oa back, Baz and Cruz doing something else, one Earth title with Hal, one space title with Guy, John in JLA, and Kyle in Titans. And Hal not ballyhooed as "the greatest." There's no rocket science going on there. Those are just very obvious moves to make.
          Trey Strain
          Guardian of the Universe
          Last edited by Trey Strain; 05-11-2017, 10:10 PM.

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          • Realistically, what Green Lantern likely needs to boost sales and reinvigorate the franchise are:

            A new writer who is talented and knowledgeable about the franchise. Their knowledge must go beyond the Geoff Johns run. They must be willing and able to write about non-Geoff Johns concepts. Venditti seems like a cool guy, but the franchise isn't going to get ahead with him. He doesn't seem passionate enough about this topic, his stories aren't good enough, and he doesn't have a lot of worth to add to the concept (Relic, Emotional Reservoir).

            An important event involving other franchises in the DCU that centers on the Green Lantern universe. As much as I hate events, this can draw attention back to the franchise and make it relevant again. It's easy to do GL events for the DCU because the scope is so large and the threats are so big. Personally, I would finally utilize Parallax (Hal Jordan) who has been floating around out there and who DC has likely forgotten about. Also, this event must be really well received and launch a new direction for the Green Lantern books. It must also not involve the Emotional Spectrum. That would be a terrible idea. A big event taking things in another direction would be good for breaking that rut.

            Reorganize the characters and books in an intelligent manner. Baz and Cruz must certainly go.

            Put out art and writing that is great and compelling.

            I honestly don't think DC is sweating it much, though. I don't think Green Lantern is a very big priority for them. The editors at DC probably know that the executives at WB probably don't like the idea of backing the franchise much and that the chances of it doing anything notable in outside media are rather slim. I honestly don't think that Green Lantern Corps movie in 2020 is going to happen. The fact that a Batgirl movie was announced kinda' out of nowhere says to me that WB's DC Comics movie plans are up in the air and subject to change.
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            • DC should start using Kyle Rayner in the Titans book(s) AFAP this would draw young/new readers I now it drew me to GL when he was on Titans the first time.

              And at the same time Kyle should be recognized once and for all as the most powerful superhero on Earth (Supes never was) like in the Morrison era. He could tap into ion or white lantern powers once in a while you know like a super saiya.

              I think this would make everyone happy, those who like classic Kyle and Super Kyle ...unless of course Hal fans find something to whine about lol jk

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              • Make the Guardians the leaders of the GLC again. No human or alien GL should be in charge. Certainly not a single one. I don't want one Guardian, I want a few dozen of them again. In fact, bring it back up to 36 Guardians where it was best.

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                • I don't think Kyle needs to be the most or the greatest, any more than Hal does. You don't improve a character by making him more powerful or giving him a job promotion. That's an idea that's been tried with bad results too may times

                  As I've said, let the CPB choose new Lanterns and hand out a few assignments. Keep the Guardians off-camera. Then the tiresome conflicts between them and the Lanterns will go away. WILLPOWAH and the the ring constructs can go bye-bye too, except Alan can keep the constructs. Get Hal back with his supporting cast on Earth. Don't be afraid to tell "small" Green Lantern stories, the way Marvel does in some of its most successful movies.

                  Then you'd own a franchise that would rival Superman, and it wouldn't depend on any particular writer, once it got set up properly. I think DC should and does have great interest in owning such a franchise. They just need to admit that Geoff isn't the right guy to set it up for them. There are many other jobs that he could do better.
                  Trey Strain
                  Guardian of the Universe
                  Last edited by Trey Strain; 05-12-2017, 10:09 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Noct View Post
                    DC should start using Kyle Rayner in the Titans book(s) AFAP this would draw young/new readers I now it drew me to GL when he was on Titans the first time.

                    And at the same time Kyle should be recognized once and for all as the most powerful superhero on Earth (Supes never was) like in the Morrison era. He could tap into ion or white lantern powers once in a while you know like a super saiya.

                    I think this would make everyone happy, those who like classic Kyle and Super Kyle ...unless of course Hal fans find something to whine about lol jk
                    Actually, I think it would be a huge mistake for Kyle to into the Titans now that HJ&TGLC established that he was the Torchbearer prior to becoming the White Lantern. That closed the door on him logically fitting in with the TT, unless the JL or Ganthet wants Kyle to mentor them.

                    If anyone would benefit from joining the Titans, it would be Jessica. Simon has fared much better in their title, and she's coming off more like a sidekick now. Having her interact with characters at a similar station in life might help DC realize the character's potential.

                    Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post
                    Make the Guardians the leaders of the GLC again. No human or alien GL should be in charge. Certainly not a single one. I don't want one Guardian, I want a few dozen of them again. In fact, bring it back up to 36 Guardians where it was best.
                    Indeed, it's high time that the soldiers had their commanders back.
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                    • Originally posted by Big Blue Lantern View Post
                      Actually, I think it would be a huge mistake for Kyle to into the Titans now that HJ&TGLC established that he was the Torchbearer prior to becoming the White Lantern. That closed the door on him logically fitting in with the TT, unless the JL or Ganthet wants Kyle to mentor them.

                      If anyone would benefit from joining the Titans, it would be Jessica. Simon has fared much better in their title, and she's coming off more like a sidekick now. Having her interact with characters at a similar station in life might help DC realize the character's potential.
                      Do whatever it takes to get Kyle in Titans or Teen Titans. A reboot would accomplish that just fine.

                      Re Geoff: Remember that GL was exempted from a reboot in the New 52 to accommodate his reinvention of the property, which has ultimately failed. So no, he should not engineer the reboot.

                      Re Baz and Cruz: There are just too many Earth Lanterns. Four is stretching it to the breaking point. Six is absurd.
                      Trey Strain
                      Guardian of the Universe
                      Last edited by Trey Strain; 05-12-2017, 10:21 AM.

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                      • And no more destroying the Corps and then rebuilding it. The Guardians got along OK for 10 billion years without that constantly happening.

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                        • Just because WB wants to focus more on Batman universe concepts [not unlike DC] doesn't mean the GLC film won't happen. GL is still considered a big gun so he'll get his time in the light.

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                          I'd rather have one superb GLC book with rotating stories featuring the four musketeers [Hal, John, Guy, Kyle] and it sell closer to 75-85k a month than two sub-par books barely breaking 65k together. Make it 30 pages or whatever, charge me an extra $1, and everybody wins. Have two or three individual stories going at the same time within the title.

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                          • I don't think Johns should come back to the book. I loved his run but I'd rather keep it what it is.

                            I look at The Flash, they brought a new writer in that is a fan of the character and his history and the book is excellent in my opinion. I've never read anything by Williamson before and his Flash is one of the only comics I look forward to getting.

                            He was able to come in and clean up Venditti's mess on Flash, someone with talent like that can clean the mess off Green Lantern.

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                            • Originally posted by buffalorock View Post
                              I don't think Johns should come back to the book. I loved his run but I'd rather keep it what it is.

                              I look at The Flash, they brought a new writer in that is a fan of the character and his history and the book is excellent in my opinion. I've never read anything by Williamson before and his Flash is one of the only comics I look forward to getting.

                              He was able to come in and clean up Venditti's mess on Flash, someone with talent like that can clean the mess off Green Lantern.
                              A reboot should pretty much reflect the Englehart/Jones years. That's what everybody thought Geoff had in mind when he brought back Hal and the Corps, and it's when Guy and John were at their best. I'm not a fan of Warrior but I thought Beau Smith's characterization of Guy and the dialogue he wrote were very good.

                              The person who does a reboot should be a fan of that period.
                              Trey Strain
                              Guardian of the Universe
                              Last edited by Trey Strain; 05-12-2017, 02:02 PM.

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                              • That is, the people who wanted Hal and the Corps back didn't think the pre-Kyle Green Lantern sucked, and they didn't want Geoff to reinvent the property. If they had thought it sucked, then they wouldn't have wanted it back!

                                And to this very day, it's STILL not back...

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