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  • Originally posted by "Chosen" View Post
    What's easier to carry? A hand gun or a space suit? With him being a new guy I don't have an issue with him being ignorant to the fact that a gun wouldn't work, however I do remember an issue where the ring failed and the gun got him out of a jam. The recent development of him getting rid of the gun was nicely done in my eyes though.
    I've always felt that the rings failing is a poor plot device when it's overused. After millions of years, it stands to reason that either the GotU or the GLC themselves would have developed a contingency plan for that. If Sinestro can reach into a pocket dimension and pull out a battery, why don't they all have something like that for the worst case scenario? Why don't they have something like a code to a wormhole that brings them to a place where they're instantly outfitted for space and armed in some manner until their rings are back online?

    I agree that Baz giving up his gun was a pleasant development. While it does stand to reason that a GL would want a back-up weapon, that story showed that his reliance on his gun was residue from the feral outlook of a criminal. He still has trust issues with other heroes and he's questioned himself in the past, so it was fitting that he'd had a cathartic moment where he'd have to reaffirm his new life as a hero.

    Originally posted by "Chosen" View Post
    They are not going to reboot anything. What will happen is a crossover will be announced to get a boost in sales, if that doesn't work a creative team shake up with an A-List writer will be brought on.
    I expect some kind of major shake-up in the next six months. I certainly hope GL isn't reduced to a single title since the mythos is so big that it needs more than one book.
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    • Originally posted by Big Blue Lantern View Post
      ...I agree that Baz giving up his gun was a pleasant development. While it does stand to reason that a GL would want a back-up weapon, that story showed that his reliance on his gun was residue from the feral outlook of a criminal. He still has trust issues with other heroes and he's questioned himself in the past, so it was fitting that he'd had a cathartic moment where he'd have to reaffirm his new life as a hero. . .
      Good analysis. So, it wasn't the gun itself that was the problem so much as the motivations that led him to always carry it.

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      • If DC does do a creative team change, I wonder if they are going to keep Van Sciver around working on Green Lantern. While he may be popular with some, his name didn't do anything for the sales of Edge of Oblivion and it isn't doing anything for Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps right now. What's more is that he's likely not a very cheap artist to have drawing and inking pages. So, if he's not doing anything for sales, and assuming he's costing perhaps considerably more than the average artist, it doesn't make a lot of sense to keep him around from my view. Especially if they want a really fresh take on things next time around. That is, of course, an "if".
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        • I don't think Van Sciver is a great fit for monthly work. I love his art and he puts the time to make it look good but drawing a couple issues out of every arc is not going to increase sales.

          I feel he is best suited for mini series and special events. I could see if he did variant covers for more than just GL that could help as well.

          Regarding Edge of Oblivion, the writing and plot in that story was weak, and I think some were pissed at the cancellation of Lost Army. I don't the line has recovered from that and it wasn't in a very good place when it started, compounding the problem. Hell it probably would have fared even worse without his art, but I think the point is moot., since it was bound to fail anyway on the story's own merits.

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          • Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post
            I despise those characters that much. They are pretty much to GL what Poochie was to Itchy & Scratchy. The sooner they go away the better.
            Dave. I thinks its safe to say that I have a better chance of seeing Guy getting his Warrior powers back then you have of being rid of Baz and Cruz. As long as Johns is one of the top dogs at DC those two are practically untouchable. We got them for the forseeable. The only thing that we can ask for is that they are well written and not just Mary Sues to pander to Johns.

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            • Just what DC needs. Six active human Green Lanterns. Soon to be 7 when Alan comes back.

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              • Originally posted by Big Blue Lantern View Post
                If Sinestro can reach into a pocket dimension and pull out a battery, why don't they all have something like that for the worst case scenario? Why don't they have something like a code to a wormhole that brings them to a place where they're instantly outfitted for space and armed in some manner until their rings are back online?.
                You bring up a concept I've wrestled with as a Green Lantern fan for years. Past writers have used a feature of the ring that allows the GL to stash their lantern in a pocket dimension, that they can quickly retrieve when needed. I always assumed the writer's purpose of this was to have a way for a GL to get to their lantern to recharge it when needed, without having to depict them carrying it everywhere they go. Easy for Earth based stories, but when Hal was going through space I can see the editor not wanting to have the artist draw Hal holding it as he flies or sitting in a bubble all the time.

                Either way, the idea didn't get used regularly and disappeared eventually. I like the idea in concept, but I would hate to be the writer who had to write around that all the time. Still, it shows there is room for some creativity concerning the ring and lantern's capabilities that might be left to explore.

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                • There are ups and downs to having so many people writing the story for a series. Some ups are that the story can continually indefinitely and you get so many different ideas and views from the different perspectives of the various writers. However, many different interpretations often yield contradictions, and sometimes the core ideas that make the story work can be lost in favor of some other vision (like the Emotional Spectrum, for example).

                  For Green Lantern, whether you keep a power battery stashed away in a conveniently accessed pocket dimension or in a locker you can't always reach right away is one of the contradictions. The pocket dimension, while interesting, nearly eliminates the threat of running out of power, which, at this point, is Green Lantern's only real weakness. But that opens up some other questions, like why not just carry the battery around with you, unless you fear it getting damaged or stolen, or something. But I think those fears should be offset by the threat of running out of power.

                  By this point, I think someone should have figured all of this out. Actually, they should have done it right at the outset as they were developing the concept. But, I mean, because of the nature of how DC comics operate, some other writer or editor would likely just come along and overturn it when it doesn't suit what they want to do with their story.
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                  • Originally posted by Star-Lantern View Post
                    ...The pocket dimension, while interesting, nearly eliminates the threat of running out of power, which, at this point, is Green Lantern's only real weakness...
                    Really? I think it's the opposite. The rings are weaker than they've been (aside from losing the yellow weakness). GLs get knocked out and/or killed all the time now. It seems like a stiff breeze will blow them over. Plus they can no longer time travel, heal, walk through walls, change their appearance, etc.

                    Originally posted by Star-Lantern View Post
                    ...But that opens up some other questions, like why not just carry the battery around with you, unless you fear it getting damaged or stolen, or something. But I think those fears should be offset by the threat of running out of power...
                    Yeah, I'd think you'd try to make it part of your costume somehow, even attach it to armor or something.

                    But, yeah, the pocket dimension wasn't consistent. Sometimes it just meant that it was hidden say in Hal's apartment but out of sync with time and space, meaning he had to go there and sync it. Other times (I think more often) it was accessible anywhere and anywhen, which of course is what you would want if you were a GL. The latter actually seems a more likely description for a "pocket dimension." Otherwise, it would just be an alternate dimension.

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                    • Originally posted by Space Cop View Post
                      Really? I think it's the opposite. The rings are weaker than they've been (aside from losing the yellow weakness). GLs get knocked out and/or killed all the time now. It seems like a stiff breeze will blow them over. Plus they can no longer time travel, heal, walk through walls, change their appearance, etc.
                      Yeah, the rings have been de-powered, but now that the yellow weakness is gone, there is no actual real handicap they have other than running out of energy. It's kinda' semantics, but there is nothing an enemy can exploit like they could with Superman and Kryptonite.
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                      • ^True. The current weaknesses are just writers' shortcuts, not technical deficiencies.

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                        • Remember when a GL's power ring was powerful enough to destroy a planet? Now they seem to barely be able to heat a can of beans with the things.

                          I mean, I completely get WHY, I just miss some of the grander deeds GLs used to do.

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                          • Remember when a GL's power ring was powerful enough to destroy a planet? Now they seem to barely be able to heat a can of beans with the things.

                            I mean, I completely get WHY, I just miss some of the grander deeds GLs used to do.

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                            • Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post
                              Remember when a GL's power ring was powerful enough to destroy a planet? ....
                              Pepperidge Farm remembers.


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                              • Originally posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I View Post
                                Just what DC needs. Six active human Green Lanterns. Soon to be 7 when Alan comes back.
                                This is definitely going to have to be addressed at some stage. They'll only be able to justify [both in real world and in the comic universe] having that many Green Lanterns to Earth.

                                The problem is if they decide to reduce the earth GL numbers then what do you do with the characters they're dropping from GL. Uber-Kyle has been done to death and the numbers at the moment aren't good so they can't make a 3rd book featuring Blue Lanterns that he can star in. Guy atleast has his Warrior powers to fall back on [with some modification to make him less OP and look less like something out RAW] I'd rather that then having play musical Power Rings again.

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