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    TazzMission
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    Originally posted by Space Cop View Post





    I can't evaluate that until I see the movie (hopefully in a few weeks), but I think as a fan one of the strengths of the original is that Dutch's team is interesting before they're hunted. I would watch and enjoy a movie where the team had to rescue the prisoners, discover the coverup and get out alone. I do get, however, that the sequels have to build the mythos of the Yautja.
    In Prey they touch on naru the main character that becoming a hunter isnt just hunting but also surviving. Like her tribe pretty much rips on her for wanting to be a hunter instead of a healer. Shes more resourceful than Dutch in that area.

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  • Space Cop
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    Originally posted by Andrew NDB View Post
    ...There is no way David is what created the Aliens. The Engineers were most likely reverse engineering them for their own bio-weapons. Also, though it is a very stupid movie, Prometheus actually gives you all of the Alien origins you need, without actually spelling anything out. It seems pretty clear from all the clues. Think about it.
    So David reverse engineered their reverse engineering? Did he think he was creating them? In that case, the xenos are just some ancient, perfect-predator species? That could explain things, but I don't feel its clear in the movies.

    Originally posted by Andrew NDB View Post
    ...LV-426 from Alien and Aliens and LV-223 from Prometheus are both in the Zeta Reticuli System. Go ahead and look it up. The Engineers were about ready to bombard Earth 2000 years ago with the black bioweapon goo (according to Ridley at the time, this was because Jesus was an Engineer and we crucified him) when there was an accident and they themselves got exposed. Different Juggernaut ships (same as the derelict from Alien) take off in an evacuation, the ones that even made it to the Juggernauts. Clearly one solo Engineer who made it off wasn't so lucky, got chestbursted by being contaminated by the goo, crashed on LV-426. Meanwhile, at the same exact time, another Engineer on LV-223 put himself into cryosleep, hoping for the best..
    I don't mind some mystery in a movie, but I wish he spelled more of this out. Where did he state this backstory?

    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    From a story point of view yea its way better than the original.The original was basically go investigate behind enemy territory and bring back survivors. In Prey its about a persons right of passage. I think naru is just as equally remeberable as Dutch. Ill always love the original but i liked this one a lot more. If Disney continues to flesh out bad ass leads like this one ill definitely be invested. I mean how crazy Would it be if the next one is set during the American civil war as i said before Spartans in Greece ect? Hell they can even be the djinn in Islam or something. Playing in the sandbox of time periods can open up so many ideas For predator
    I can't evaluate that until I see the movie (hopefully in a few weeks), but I think as a fan one of the strengths of the original is that Dutch's team is interesting before they're hunted. I would watch and enjoy a movie where the team had to rescue the prisoners, discover the coverup and get out alone. I do get, however, that the sequels have to build the mythos of the Yautja.
    Space Cop
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    Last edited by Space Cop; 08-06-2022, 01:35 PM.

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  • TazzMission
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    Originally posted by Andrew NDB View Post





    Better than the original? No way. You can't tell me these characters were in any way more memorable or iconic as Arnold's bunch. Now, better than the others? Eh. There could be an argument there. It's definitely the purest form of a Predator movie.

    And so I did see "Prey." Decent. It's exactly the movie it seems from the trailers. No really big surprises or anything (beyond the vast number of characters who lose legs and arms in this... it's crazy!). Yes, we do get the story of the pistol from Predator 2. It's kind of neat now how we can watch Prey => Predator 1 => Predator 2 and it all forms kind of an actually fairly symmetrical closed trilogy.
    From a story point of view yea its way better than the original.The original was basically go investigate behind enemy territory and bring back survivors. In Prey its about a persons right of passage. I think naru is just as equally remeberable as Dutch. Ill always love the original but i liked this one a lot more. If Disney continues to flesh out bad ass leads like this one ill definitely be invested. I mean how crazy Would it be if the next one is set during the American civil war as i said before Spartans in Greece ect? Hell they can even be the djinn in Islam or something. Playing in the sandbox of time periods can open up so many ideas For predator

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  • Andrew NDB
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  • Andrew NDB
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    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    Apparently prey is where the first predators come to earth.
    Originally posted by Space Cop View Post
    They really shouldn't commit to when they first arrived, unless there's a canon chronology I'm not aware of.
    Originally posted by Robinson View Post
    AVP portrayed them as having visiting for 1000's of years. Prey takes place in 1717, so it wouldnt be their first visit.
    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post

    I dont think avp is canon .The trailers are calling it predators first hunt
    Both things can be true at the same time. The Predators VISITED Earth and guided humans to build the pyramids. They didn't have a HUNT until Prey.

    It works.

    Originally posted by Robinson View Post
    Does Prometheus fit the prometheus timeline? I never saw the second one but I remember people not being too happy with the first.
    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post

    I think the alien timeline yea. I saw covenant once . It was ok nothing special
    Originally posted by Space Cop View Post
    You can find multiple articles on all the plot holes in Prometheus. Some are just the characters being dumb. Some are because it's such a confusing plot (continuity-wise). The one that keeps bugging me is why there's a mural showing the xenomorphs when they're not yet created (unless the Engineers knew it would be that precise).

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    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    Design idea perhaps hence engineer? Just trying to think about posibilities. I think this was a good scifi movie as its own thing but definitely not anything close to alien
    There is no way David is what created the Aliens. The Engineers were most likely reverse engineering them for their own bio-weapons. Also, though it is a very stupid movie, Prometheus actually gives you all of the Alien origins you need, without actually spelling anything out. It seems pretty clear from all the clues. Think about it.

    LV-426 from Alien and Aliens and LV-223 from Prometheus are both in the Zeta Reticuli System. Go ahead and look it up. The Engineers were about ready to bombard Earth 2000 years ago with the black bioweapon goo (according to Ridley at the time, this was because Jesus was an Engineer and we crucified him) when there was an accident and they themselves got exposed. Different Juggernaut ships (same as the derelict from Alien) take off in an evacuation, the ones that even made it to the Juggernauts. Clearly one solo Engineer who made it off wasn't so lucky, got chestbursted by being contaminated by the goo, crashed on LV-426. Meanwhile, at the same exact time, another Engineer on LV-223 put himself into cryosleep, hoping for the best.

    The rest is history.

    Myself, I would have just been happy post-Prometheus if Ridley made good on his promise and we had a big Engineers movie. With Noomi and David getting a grand tour of their world, their history, their grand plans and so on. Instead we got Covenant, an insulting "greatest hits" compilation of Alien 1-4.

    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    I Just finished it . Im going to say something i thought i would never say._.It is better than the original. The time period was absolutely gorgeous. Its basically a right of passage story but with a girl and her dog. I got assassin creed vibes with this in certain fight scenes. It really builds on the suspense like the original. My only gripe is cosmetic where the predators face is cgi. Other than that i say watch it. Apparently there will be a version wheres its in camanche. The lead was fantastic . Depending on what the future is for predator this amber midhunter who is the lead can be the next sig weaver as Ripley
    Better than the original? No way. You can't tell me these characters were in any way more memorable or iconic as Arnold's bunch. Now, better than the others? Eh. There could be an argument there. It's definitely the purest form of a Predator movie.

    And so I did see "Prey." Decent. It's exactly the movie it seems from the trailers. No really big surprises or anything (beyond the vast number of characters who lose legs and arms in this... it's crazy!). Yes, we do get the story of the pistol from Predator 2. It's kind of neat now how we can watch Prey => Predator 1 => Predator 2 and it all forms kind of an actually fairly symmetrical closed trilogy.

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  • TazzMission
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  • TazzMission
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    I Just finished it . Im going to say something i thought i would never say._.It is better than the original. The time period was absolutely gorgeous. Its basically a right of passage story but with a girl and her dog. I got assassin creed vibes with this in certain fight scenes. It really builds on the suspense like the original. My only gripe is cosmetic where the predators face is cgi. Other than that i say watch it. Apparently there will be a version wheres its in camanche. The lead was fantastic . Depending on what the future is for predator this amber midhunter who is the lead can be the next sig weaver as Ripley
    TazzMission
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    Last edited by TazzMission; 08-05-2022, 07:32 PM.

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  • TazzMission
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  • TazzMission
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    Originally posted by Space Cop View Post
    You can find multiple articles on all the plot holes in Prometheus. Some are just the characters being dumb. Some are because it's such a confusing plot (continuity-wise). The one that keeps bugging me is why there's a mural showing the xenomorphs when they're not yet created (unless the Engineers knew it would be that precise).

    432757435777241.jpg
    Design idea perhaps hence engineer? Just trying to think about posibilities. I think this was a good scifi movie as its own thing but definitely not anything close to alien

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  • Space Cop
    The Dandy

  • Space Cop
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    You can find multiple articles on all the plot holes in Prometheus. Some are just the characters being dumb. Some are because it's such a confusing plot (continuity-wise). The one that keeps bugging me is why there's a mural showing the xenomorphs when they're not yet created (unless the Engineers knew it would be that precise).

    432757435777241.jpg

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  • TazzMission
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    Originally posted by Robinson View Post
    Does Prometheus fit the prometheus timeline? I never saw the second one but I remember people not being too happy with the first.
    I think the alien timeline yea. I saw covenant once . It was ok nothing special

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  • Robinson
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  • Robinson
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    Does Prometheus fit the prometheus timeline? I never saw the second one but I remember people not being too happy with the first.

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  • Space Cop
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    Yeah, I've heard multiple times that the two AvP movies are not canon. For sure, they aren't in the Alien series. They don't fit with the Prometheus timeline.

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  • TazzMission
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  • TazzMission
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    Originally posted by Robinson View Post
    AVP portrayed them as having visiting for 1000's of years. Prey takes place in 1717, so it wouldnt be their first visit.
    I dont think avp is canon .The trailers are calling it predators first hunt

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  • Robinson
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  • Robinson
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    AVP portrayed them as having visiting for 1000's of years. Prey takes place in 1717, so it wouldnt be their first visit.

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  • Space Cop
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  • Space Cop
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    They really shouldn't commit to when they first arrived, unless there's a canon chronology I'm not aware of.

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  • TazzMission
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    Originally posted by Space Cop View Post
    A friend has Hulu and plans to come over at the end of the month for a double feature, so I'm going to try to leech off his account to watch Prey.



    They could just adapt the Dark Horse comics because the other two movies had nothing to do with them. You could do that story (which is about colonists beset by both species) with an R.
    Or or if this is successful And gets a sequel maybe the next setting or period could be vikings ? Apparently prey is where the first predators come to earth. So you can still have period piece story to play with. Hell why not toss predators in the American civil war.

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  • Space Cop
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    A friend has Hulu and plans to come over at the end of the month for a double feature, so I'm going to try to leech off his account to watch Prey.

    Originally posted by TazzMission View Post
    Im excited for this film. One review said the lead is not a mary sue. Im going to say something i never say and that is avp needs a hard r reboot. Set it during the apollo 11 mission where man lands on the moon and they find technological ruins on the dark side of the moon. Have them discover xenomorph eggs where once removed it triggers a silent alarm alerting the predators wich has them come to earth. You can also touch on the cuban missle crisis as a coverup for the alien and predators war. Or you can tie it with Roswell from 1947 and humans stole technology from a downed craft. Id like to see how humanity would use technology like cloaking or if humanity would use alien eggs as weapons of war
    They could just adapt the Dark Horse comics because the other two movies had nothing to do with them. You could do that story (which is about colonists beset by both species) with an R.

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