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Old 11-14-2019, 06:57 AM   #1426
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Well, that and the fact the when you "not really" kill somebody, you are usually reversing something negative that few people WANTED to be permanent. When you "not really" marry characters with a long-term relationship, you are generally seen as reversing something POSITIVE that many people DID want to be permanent (especially since you can't usually do that without negatively changing the relationship they ALREADY had).
The non-marriage went over like a Santa Claus at an Eagles game, I won't dispute that, but I doubt that anyone at DC is losing sleep over it. Batman's supporting cast is on fire right now. Any random one-shot or variant cover with Harley or Joker draws interest. Harley has a highly-anticipated animated series coming out, Batman has a new animated movie seemingly every 6 months, and Joker has become WB's most profitable DC adaptation every. The appeal of the Dark Knight and his world never ceases to amaze me.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:31 AM   #1427
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The non-marriage went over like a Santa Claus at an Eagles game, I won't dispute that, but I doubt that anyone at DC is losing sleep over it. Batman's supporting cast is on fire right now. Any random one-shot or variant cover with Harley or Joker draws interest. Harley has a highly-anticipated animated series coming out, Batman has a new animated movie seemingly every 6 months, and Joker has become WB's most profitable DC adaptation every. The appeal of the Dark Knight and his world never ceases to amaze me.
You're Dan DiDio, an executive in the ailing comics industry, and you're going to lose 60K sales at four dollars a pop from your flagship title per month? And you're going to blow that off?

If Dan tells someone higher up than he is that that's no big deal, he'll be standing in line at the unemployment office the next day.

That IS a big deal.
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You're Dan DiDio, an executive in the ailing comics industry, and you're going to lose 60K sales at four dollars a pop from your flagship title per month? And you're going to blow that off?

If Dan tells someone higher up than he is that that's no big deal, he'll be standing in line at the unemployment office the next day.

That IS a big deal.
It was a huge mistake. I'm not disputing that, but in the grand scheme of pop culture, Batman is still DC's cash cow. The loss of those readers is more than offset by Joker and Harley Quinn being more popular than they've ever been. Of the 50 best-selling comic books of the year so far, 12 of them are Batman-related. His corner of DC's universe is the one place where the company can pull a stunt like that and recover with no lasting damage.
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^Lego Movie 2 had a couple references to the jilting. Lego Batman bemoaned the public not wanting him happy with someone else.
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November Comic Sales

1 1 1 New Mutants 1 $4.99 11/06/19 Marvel 138,484
2 2 4 X-Men 2 $3.99 11/13/19 Marvel 117,538
3 3 2 Absolute Carnage 5 $4.99 11/20/19 Marvel 106,862
4 4 3 X-Force 1 $4.99 11/06/19 Marvel 105,138
5 6 6 Fallen Angels 1 $4.99 11/13/19 Marvel 86,672
6 7 5 Deadpool 1 $4.99 11/20/19 Marvel 83,603
7 9 10 Amazing Spider-Man 33 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 77,581
8 11 7 Undiscovered Country 1* $3.99 11/06/19 Image 73,063
9 n.a. 11 Batman 82 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 71,310
10 12 14 Amazing Spider-Man 34 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 67,914
11 13 13 Venom 20 $3.99 11/27/19 Marvel 67,702
12 14 9 Scream Curse of Carnage 1 $4.99 11/27/19 Marvel 64,691
13 15 12 Captain Marvel 12 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 62,227
14 16 15 New Mutants 2 $3.99 11/27/19 Marvel 60,518
15 n.a. 16 Batman 83 $3.99 11/20/19 DC 60,307
16 18 17 Excalibur 2 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 55,828
17 19 20 Justice League 35 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 55,411

18 21 22 X-Force 2 $3.99 11/27/19 Marvel 53,667
19 22 8 Batman White Knight Presents Von Freeze 1 $5.99 11/20/19 DC 51,975
20 23 43 Spawn 302 $2.99 11/06/19 Image 51,968
21 n.a. 24 Legion of Super Heroes 1 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 51,835
22 24 23 Marauders 2 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 51,241
23 25 33 Avengers 27 $3.99 11/27/19 Marvel 51,011
24 26 27 Immortal Hulk 27 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 50,452
25 27 46 Morbius 1 $3.99 11/13/19 Marvel 50,434
26 28 29 Justice League 36 $3.99 11/20/19 DC 48,522
27 30 30 Fallen Angels 2 $3.99 11/27/19 Marvel 46,859
28 32 31 Superman 17 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 46,132
29 n.a. 32 Batman Superman 4 $3.99 11/20/19 DC 45,796
30 34 34 Immortal Hulk 26 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 45,522
31 n.a. 35 Detective Comics 1015 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 43,928
32 35 21 Star Wars 75 $4.99 11/20/19 Marvel 42,696
33 36 38 Green Lantern Blackstars 1 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 42,145
34 37 39 Event Leviathan 6 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 42,092
35 38 40 Avengers 26 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 42,077
36 39 26 2099 Alpha 1 $4.99 11/20/19 Marvel 41,118
37 40 28 Annihilation Scourge Alpha 1 $4.99 11/20/19 Marvel 40,002
38 41 42 Flash 82 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 39,710
39 42 36 Batmans Grave 2* $3.99 11/13/19 DC 39,621
40 43 44 Far Sector 1* $3.99 11/13/19 DC 39,290
41 44 80 Doctor Doom 2 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 38,784
42 45 45 Star Wars 74 $3.99 11/13/19 Marvel 38,634
43 46 47 Spider-Man & Venom Double Trouble 1 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 37,435
44 47 50 King Thor 3 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 36,834
45 48 49 Fantastic Four 16 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 36,757
46 49 18 Tales From The Dark Multiverse Blackest Night 1 $5.99 11/13/19 DC 36,456
47 n.a. 48 Detective Comics 1016 $3.99 11/27/19 DC 36,324
48 n.a. 51 Action Comics 1017 $3.99 11/27/19 DC 35,996
49 50 19 Tales From The Dark Multiverse Infinite Crisis 1 $5.99 11/27/19 DC 35,575
50 51 53 Catwoman 17 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 35,056
51 52 55 Savage Avengers 7 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 34,742
52 53 54 Wonder Woman 82 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 34,520
53 54 37 Absolute Carnage Weapon Plus 1 $4.99 11/06/19 Marvel 34,441
54 55 56 Guardians of the Galaxy 11 $3.99 11/13/19 Marvel 34,024
55 56 41 Absolute Carnage Captain Marvel 1 $4.99 11/20/19 Marvel 32,765
56 57 57 Flash 83 $3.99 11/27/19 DC 32,608
57 58 61 Daredevil 13 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 32,058
58 59 60 Justice League Dark 17 $3.99 11/27/19 DC 31,897
59 60 63 Ghost Rider 2 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 31,825
60 61 65 Punisher Soviet 1 $3.99 11/13/19 Marvel 31,823
61 62 68 Captain America 16 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 31,373
62 63 67 John Constantine Hellblazer 1 $3.99 11/27/19 DC 30,790
63 65 70 Harley Quinn 67 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 30,377
64 67 74 He Man and the Masters of the Multiverse 1 $3.99 11/20/19 DC 29,254
65 68 25 Question The Deaths of Vic Sage 1 $6.99 11/20/19 DC 29,095
66 69 52 Black Cat Annual 1 $4.99 11/13/19 Marvel 29,074
67 70 75 Flash Forward 3 $3.99 11/20/19 DC 28,854
68 71 78 Miles Morales Spider-Man 12 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 28,628
69 72 73 Black Cat 6 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 28,434
70 73 76 Shazam 8 $3.99 11/27/19 DC 28,395
71 74 77 Infected King Shazam 1 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 28,201
72 75 81 Spider-Verse 2 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 27,219
73 76 58 Fantastic Four 2099 1 $4.99 11/20/19 Marvel 26,549
74 77 59 History of Marvel Universe 5 $4.99 11/13/19 Marvel 26,528
75 78 82 Teen Titans 36 $3.99 11/20/19 DC 26,181
76 80 62 Basketful of Heads 2* $3.99 11/27/19 DC 26,109
77 81 87 Conan The Barbarian 11 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 25,444
78 82 64 Punisher 2099 1 $4.99 11/27/19 Marvel 25,375
79 83 126 Yondu 1 $3.99 11/06/19 Marvel 25,359
80 84 85 Batman and the Outsiders 7 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 25,103
81 85 86 Justice League Odyssey 15 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 25,062
82 87 71 Conan 2099 1 $4.99 11/27/19 Marvel 24,535
83 n.a. 69 Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy 3 Card Stock $4.99 11/13/19 DC 24,514
84 88 91 Tony Stark Iron Man 18 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 24,408
85 89 90 Young Justice 10 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 24,162
86 91 95 Amazing Mary Jane 2 $3.99 11/20/19 Marvel 23,886
87 n.a. 72 Legion of Super Heroes 1 Card Stock $4.99 11/06/19 DC 23,776
88 92 97 Star Wars Target Vader 5 $3.99 11/13/19 Marvel 23,456
89 93 98 Ghost-Spider 4 $3.99 11/27/19 Marvel 23,208
90 94 96 Killadelphia 1 $3.99 11/27/19 Image 22,765
91 95 101 Red Hood Outlaw 40 $3.99 11/27/19 DC 21,864
92 n.a. 79 Batman 83 Card Stock $4.99 11/20/19 DC 21,620
93 96 102 Deathstroke 49 $3.99 11/06/19 DC 21,577
94 97 93 Folklords 1 $3.99 11/13/19 Boom 21,450
95 98 92 Family Tree 1* $3.99 11/13/19 Image 21,414
96 99 178 Black Panther and Agents of Wakanda 3 $3.99 11/13/19 Marvel 21,347
97 n.a. 83 Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy 3 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 21,312
98 100 105 Hawkman 18 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 21,084
99 n.a. 106 Dollhouse Family 1 $3.99 11/13/19 DC 21,051
100 101 120 Once & Future 4 $3.99 11/20/19 Boom 21,034
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129 126 136 Black Hammer Justice League 5 $3.99 11/13/19 Dark Horse 16,245145 143 153 Green Lantern 85 Facs. Ed. $3.99 11/20/19 DC 14,198
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2 Green Lantern 1 $4.99 DC 113,651
14 Green Lantern 2 $3.99 DC 64,127
18 Green Lantern 3 $3.99 DC 54,398
22 Green Lantern 4 $3.99 DC 50,176
25 Green Lantern 5 $3.99 DC 47,325
22 Green Lantern 6 $3.99 DC 49,256
30 Green Lantern 7 $3.99 DC 45,338
31 Green Lantern 8 $3.99 DC 44,066
38 Green Lantern 9 $3.99 DC 43,401
54 Green Lantern 10 $3.99/4.99 DC 43,132
39 Green Lantern 11 $3.99 DC 41,044
52 Green Lantern 12 $4.99 DC 40,437
33 Green Lantern Blackstars 1 $3.99 DC 42,145
60 Green Lantern Blackstars 2 $3.99 DC 30,755
50 Green Lantern Blackstars 3 $3.99 DC 29,884

Oddly, offering the "fill in" mini series helped, as retailers upped their orders for that month. Doubtful the 2nd and 3rd issues will fare as well, but nice to see the temporary upswing.
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December, 2019 Comic Sales

1 1 1 Doomsday Clock 12 $5.99 12/18/19 DC 117,926
2 2 8 X-Men 3 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 105,708
3 3 3 Batman Last Knight On Earth 3 $5.99 12/18/19 DC 90,058
4 4 4 Dark Knight Returns The Golden Child 1 $5.99 12/11/19 DC 88,794
5 7 10 Venom 21 $3.99 12/25/19 Marvel 74,071
6 8 5 Harley Quinn Villain of the Year 1 $4.99 12/11/19 DC 73,146
7 9 9 Symbiote Spider-Man Alien Reality 1 $4.99 12/11/19 Marvel 71,341
8 10 2 Incoming 1 $9.99 12/25/19 Marvel 69,025
9 11 18 Amazing Spider-Man 35 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 67,111
10 12 17 Superman 18 $3.99 12/11/19 DC 66,684
11 13 20 Amazing Spider-Man 36 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 63,742
12 n.a. 12 Batman 85 $4.99 12/18/19 DC 60,318
13 14 7 Harleen 3 $7.99 12/18/19 DC 59,501
14 16 13 Batman Curse of the White Knight 5 $4.99 12/11/19 DC 58,839
15 n.a. 21 Batman 84 $3.99 12/04/19 DC 58,597
16 17 23 Spider-Man 3 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 54,722
17 18 6 TMNT 100 $7.99 12/11/19 IDW 53,954
18 19 45 Dr Strange 1 $3.99 12/25/19 Marvel 53,664
19 20 24 Revenge of Cosmic Ghost Rider 1 $4.99 12/18/19 Marvel 50,639
20 21 29 New Mutants 3 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 49,991
21 22 28 Immortal Hulk 28 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 49,851
22 23 27 Marauders 3 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 49,309
23 25 56 Conan Serpent War 1 $4.99 12/04/19 Marvel 47,804
24 26 32 Justice League 37 $3.99 12/04/19 DC 47,669
25 27 34 New Mutants 4 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 47,489
26 29 35 Excalibur 3 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 47,253
27 30 37 X-Force 3 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 47,178
28 31 33 Justice League 38 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 46,800
29 32 15 Power Rangers Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1 $4.99 12/04/19 Boom 46,511
30 33 11 Joker Killer Smile 2* $5.99 12/18/19 DC 46,361
31 n.a. 14 Suicide Squad 1 $4.99 12/18/19 DC 46,258
32 34 38 Excalibur 4 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 46,022
33 35 19 Year of the Villain Hell Arisen 1* $4.99 12/18/19 DC 45,975
34 36 31 Marauders 4 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 45,641
35 37 39 X-Force 4 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 44,872
36 38 25 Venom 2099 1 $4.99 12/04/19 Marvel 41,503
37 39 72 Spider-Ham 1 $3.99 12/25/19 Marvel 41,342
38 40 22 King Thor 4 $5.99 12/18/19 Marvel 39,566
39 41 30 Spider-Man 2099 1 $4.99 12/11/19 Marvel 39,272
40 42 43 Avengers 28 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 39,234
41 43 100 Amazing Mary Jane 3 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 38,956
42 44 44 Fallen Angels 3 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 38,883
43 45 40 Guardians of the Galaxy 12 $4.99 12/18/19 Marvel 38,253
44 46 47 Fallen Angels 4 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 37,350
45 47 77 Spawn 303 $2.99 12/04/19 Image 36,978
46 48 50 Captain Marvel 13 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 36,600
47 49 49 Fantastic Four 17 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 36,564
48 n.a. 48 Batman Superman 5 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 36,269
49 n.a. 51 Detective Comics 1017 $3.99 12/11/19 DC 35,589
50 51 16 Wonder Woman Dead Earth 1* $6.99 12/18/19 DC 35,542
51 52 53 Batmans Grave 3 $3.99 12/11/19 DC 34,855
52 54 46 Undiscovered Country 2* $3.99 12/11/19 Image 32,806
53 55 62 Savage Avengers 8 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 32,298
54 56 93 Morbius 2 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 32,259
55 57 26 Tales From The Dark Multiverse The Judas Contract 1 $5.99 12/11/19 DC 31,762
56 58 42 Star Wars Rise Kylo Ren 1 $4.99 12/18/19 Marvel 31,733
57 59 65 Daredevil 14 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 31,701
58 60 36 Star Wars Empire Ascendant 1 $5.99 12/18/19 Marvel 31,484
59 62 63 Black Cat 7 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 30,795
60 63 55 Green Lantern Blackstars 2* $3.99 12/04/19 DC 30,755
61 64 57 Vampirella 6 $3.99 12/18/19 Dynamite 30,361
62 65 71 Daredevil 15 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 30,322
63 66 74 Captain America 17 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 30,039
64 67 76 Miles Morales Spider-Man 13 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 29,500
65 68 52 Thor Worthy 1 $4.99 12/04/19 Marvel 28,256
66 69 54 Ghost Rider 2099 1 $4.99 12/04/19 Marvel 28,042
67 70 78 Wonder Woman 83 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 27,775
68 71 58 Doom 2099 1 $4.99 12/11/19 Marvel 27,294
69 n.a. 69 Legion of Super Heroes 2* $3.99 12/18/19 DC 27,177
70 72 59 Annihilation Scourge Silver Surfer 1 $4.99 12/11/19 Marvel 26,481
71 73 60 Dejah Thoris 1* $3.99 12/11/19 Dynamite 26,421
72 74 61 2099 Omega 1 $4.99 12/18/19 Marvel 26,336
73 75 73 American Jesus New Messiah 1* $3.99 12/18/19 Image 26,321
74 76 81 Ghost Rider 3 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 26,240
75 77 79 Flash Forward 4 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 26,210
76 78 80 Shazam 9 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 26,115
77 79 83 Doctor Doom 3 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 25,816
78 80 64 Annihilation Scourge Omega 1 $4.99 12/18/19 Marvel 25,654
79 81 84 Tony Stark Iron Man 19 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 25,211
80 82 66 History of Marvel Universe 6 $4.99 12/18/19 Marvel 25,065
81 83 67 Annihilation Scourge Beta Ray Bill 1 $4.99 12/11/19 Marvel 24,983
82 84 86 Spider-Verse 3 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 24,938
83 85 70 Annihilation Scourge Fantastic Four 1 $4.99 12/04/19 Marvel 24,456
84 86 85 Basketful of Heads 3 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 24,445
85 87 87 Catwoman 18 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 24,324
86 n.a. 88 Flash 84 $3.99 12/11/19 DC 24,206
87 88 75 Annihilation Scourge Nova 1 $4.99 12/04/19 Marvel 23,650
88 89 89 Harley Quinn 68 $3.99 12/04/19 DC 23,583
89 90 91 Scream Curse of Carnage 2 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 23,416
90 91 92 Infected Deathbringer 1 $3.99 12/04/19 DC 22,924
91 92 96 Star Wars Target Vader 6 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 22,647
92 93 97 Punisher Soviet 2 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 22,521
93 95 98 Conan Serpent War 2 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 22,420
94 97 99 Infected The Commissioner 1 $3.99 12/18/19 DC 22,033
95 98 101 Ghost-Spider 5 $3.99 12/18/19 Marvel 21,842
96 n.a. 82 Batman 84 Card Stock $4.99 12/04/19 DC 20,582
97 99 107 Valkyrie Jane Foster 6 $3.99 12/11/19 Marvel 20,342
98 100 95 Far Sector 2 $3.99 12/11/19 DC 20,239
99 n.a. 68 Batman 85 Card Stock $5.99 12/18/19 DC 20,154
100 101 110 Spider-Man & Venom Double Trouble 2 $3.99 12/04/19 Marvel 20,021
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102 104 112 Justice League Odyssey 16 $3.99 12/11/19 DC 19,470
115 n.a. 128 Young Justice 11 $3.99 12/04/19 DC 17,096
288 n.a. 250 Young Justice 11 Card Stock $4.99 12/04/19 DC 5,306
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Wow, Far Sector is down there, will it make it to twelve?

Seems like there was more interest in the book, especially number one.
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^I should've highlighted that. Thanks for reminding me. Fixed.
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Good. Maybe this is the last time a writer will get to create his or her "very own Green Lantern."
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Good. Maybe this is the last time a writer will get to create his or her "very own Green Lantern."
Uh...no, it won't be the last time. Jemisin was hired specifically for her ability to create a new Lantern and new backdrop. You might want to avoid the Young Animal imprint since it's primarily new characters and new twists on old characters.
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i, for one, am liking Far Sector, the art is good and i'm willing to give the story time
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i, for one, am liking Far Sector, the art is good and i'm willing to give the story time
I like the art as well, and it isn't as if the main GL continuity is being gambled on the storyline from this. It's a story heavy on the GLC as police officers and the struggles of alien cultures coexisting. It's a perfect GL set-up, now it will be up to Jemisin to stick the landing.
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How'd the new year start? Check out the numbers. Again, the numbers are by units old (column 1), by dollars (column 3) and the fused rating of both (column 2).

January 2020 Comic Sales

1 1 1 Wonder Woman 750 $9.99 01/22/20 DC 167,377
2 2 2 Thor 1 $4.99 01/01/20 Marvel 158,872
3 3 3 Star Wars 1 $4.99 01/01/20 Marvel 97,053
4 4 4 X-Men 4 $3.99 01/01/20 Marvel 93,342
5 5 6 X-Men 5 $3.99 01/29/20 Marvel 80,443
6 8 5 Guardians of the Galaxy 1 $4.99 01/22/20 Marvel 66,881
7 n.a. 11 Batman 86 $3.99 01/08/20 DC 61,739
8 9 13 Amazing Spider-Man 38 $3.99 01/22/20 Marvel 57,726
9 10 14 Amazing Spider-Man 37 $3.99 01/08/20 Marvel 57,520
10 11 12 Star 1 $3.99 01/08/20 Marvel 56,755
11 n.a. 15 Batman 87 $3.99 01/22/20 DC 56,307
12 12 8 Batman: Curse of the White Knight 6 $4.99 01/22/20 DC 55,270
13 13 9 Iron Man 2020 1 $4.99 01/15/20 Marvel 54,624
14 14 16 X-Force 5 $3.99 01/08/20 Marvel 53,157
15 15 17 Thor 2 $3.99 01/29/20 Marvel 51,244
16 16 33 Marvels X 1 $4.99 01/08/20 Marvel 50,710
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If Far Sector were an ongoing, it would already be canceled. And Odyssey is now at the cancellation level.

DC, let this be a lesson to you. More Green Lanterns don't help the property. They hurt it.

Do you folks realize that within living memory, your company refused for TEN YEARS to depict any other Green Lantern except Kyle Rayner? And today you've swung all the way over to this other wild extreme, which the now-out-of-favor Geoff Johns instigated!

Stop that shit!

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And the Bat-fans are really punishing you guys for your scam with Batman's "wedding." The comic has lost 40 percent of its sales!
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If Far Sector were an ongoing, it would already be canceled. And Odyssey is now at the cancellation level.

DC, let this be a lesson to you. More Green Lanterns don't help the property. They hurt it.
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Sorry, but you're not seeing the bigger picture. IIRC, you do some type of writing and you like particular kinds of characters in certain types of stories. I can respect your passion for that, but printed stories, while still very important, are only part of the equation. The truth is that DC's (and Marvel's) characters are multimedia commodities, and the comic sales are only a tiny fraction of that. Tweaked versions of existing characters, new costumes, and new characters mean DC has the option of putting out action figures, T-shirts, video games, cartoons, statues, etc with those characters. That means they reach an audience who might not regularly buy comics.

Let me give you a couple of prime examples of what I mean. JL/JLU ended 14 years ago, but McFarlane just got the license to use those versions of the characters for a new figure line. That means that people who might not have thought about that cartoon for years, or might not even have an LCS, can wander into the toy aisle at Target or Wal-Mart and pick up figures that remind them of their childhoods. Likewise, a little girl can pick up multiple versions of Bumblebee, a character whom I can't even remember if she's ever had her own title. Do you think that little girl cares whether or not Bumblebee is a viable solo print property? No, she doesn't, and neither does DC.
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Let's assume you're right. Then DC needs to keep all those Green Lanterns out of print, where they're screwing up the property. Make them television-only, or whatever.
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Let's assume you're right. Then DC needs to keep all those Green Lanterns out of print, where they're screwing up the property. Make them television-only, or whatever.
Exactly how are they hurting GL outside of telling a story in a way that you wouldn't? In a time when Justice League can't sell 50K copies and Hal's latest tale fell under 30K copies, you really want to cut off avenues of exposure? You really want DC to sell less product?
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Exactly how are they hurting GL outside of telling a story in a way that you wouldn't? In a time when Justice League can't sell 50K copies and Hal's latest tale fell under 30K copies, you really want to cut off avenues of exposure? You really want DC to sell less product?
The numbers are right up there. Read them and weep. Odyssey and Far Sector both sold a dreadful 17K copies last month. You can't spin that as doing anything but making the Green Lantern property look weak. I know you don't care and just want to see Jessica Cruz everywhere, including in the funny papers, but it's not about you. It's about those numbers.
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Exactly how are they hurting GL outside of telling a story in a way that you wouldn't? In a time when Justice League can't sell 50K copies and Hal's latest tale fell under 30K copies, you really want to cut off avenues of exposure? You really want DC to sell less product?
The numbers are right up there. Read them and weep. Odyssey and Far Sector both sold a dreadful 17K copies last month. You can't spin that as doing anything but making the Green Lantern property look weak. I know you don't care and just want to see Jessica Cruz everywhere, including in the funny papers, but it's not about you. It's about those numbers.

Besides, DC won't sell once less Jessica doll if she's not in the comics. Little kids can't afford comics. They watch television.
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The numbers are right up there. Read them and weep. Odyssey and Far Sector both sold a dreadful 17K copies last month. You can't spin that as doing anything but making the Green Lantern property look weak. I know you don't care and just want to see Jessica Cruz everywhere, including in the funny papers, but it's not about you. It's about those numbers.

Besides, DC won't sell once less Jessica doll if she's not in the comics. Little kids can't afford comics. They watch television.
Yes, it is about the numbers, and I'm not sure what numbers you're seeing. DC's premiere super hero group is selling less than 50K, which puts them behind several X-Men titles. Green Lantern's main title, despite being solid and a personal favorite, bled readership until it was barely 40K copies sold, and Blackstars 3rd issue couldn't even top 30K. None of that backs up the idea that GL's printed stories are unstoppable juggernauts that are being hurt by newer characters. In fact, combine Far Sector and Odyssey, and they outsold Blackstars last month, despite being properties that aren't designed to be ongoing.

Moreover, I have no earthly idea where you got this notion that I just want to "see Jessica everywhere" at the expense of the Green Lantern property. That is the exact opposite of everything that I've ever posted. I'm a *GREEN LANTERN* fan, which means that I'm behind any part of the mythos that increases the GLC's visibility in a world inundated with multimedia super hero content. The *facts* are that GL's current title is a deep-dive story that couldn't and didn't appeal to everyone, as is evidenced by the numbers. Green Lantern needs new readership (ALL comics need this to survive) and stories like Far Sector and Legacy were designed to give new readers different entry points. Green Lantern fans should be thankful for any exposure that the property gets in print, animation, live-action, and collectibles. All of that helps the Green Lantern property survive.
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Too diluted now to be a household name anymore. The GL franchise honestly never needed ANY more than three human characters. Hal, John and one more. I would prefer Guy, but I can see in this day and age one of them needs to be a gay woman of color just to cover all the bases. Do that and let all the rest of them fade away. If it even matters at this point. We are probably in the last 2 years of Green Lantern comics even being published.
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Too diluted now to be a household name anymore. The GL franchise honestly never needed ANY more than three human characters. Hal, John and one more. I would prefer Guy, but I can see in this day and age one of them needs to be a gay woman of color just to cover all the bases. Do that and let all the rest of them fade away. If it even matters at this point. We are probably in the last 2 years of Green Lantern comics even being published.
The only way I could envision that happening is if DC goes under. What do they have that's definitely working better than GL? Batman, Harley, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Even Flash is debatable. With new publishing styles like the novel style of Legacy, there is some evidence of DC using different formats for their stories, but DC Comics being like an 8 title per month company? That seems highly unlikely.
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