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Old 02-28-2012, 02:46 PM   #1
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Exclamation My Own Thoughts on "GREEN LANTERN:FIRST FLIGHT"

I hope that this is the right place to put this.

These are strictly MY thoughts on "GREEN LANTERN: FIRST FLIGHT".

Based on what has been said about this movie, & comments that I have come across, I would like to present my views, especially from the viewpoint of an animation fanatic like myself.

I'd like to make a few observations in support of this movie.

One complaint is that it takes liberties with the story of Green Lantern from the comic books.

First of all: Nobody can name me a single animated movie that has ever been 100% true to the comic book, upon which it was based.

The movie is meant to entertain, above all. There was enough truth in it to make the story acceptable to those who are even somewhat familiar with the comic book.

It explored much more into the characters-the disagreements between the Guardians, & the resentment of Sinestro.

It showed Hal Jordan in a much more carefree attitude towards life, & yet, he still was very much aware of the great gift that had been given to him as being chosen as a Green Lantern. When the central battery is destroyed, we see him checking on the other corps members, as they had fallen out of the sky when their rings failed.

Then there are what some claim be be "adult" elements in the movie.

1. Sinestro saying that he wanted to see if Jordan had the "stones", (which older viewers would recognize as "balls", ie, courage & willingness), to follow him.

2. We see how Boodika is killed, by being impaled on an overhanging device in the morgue.

3. There is what someone would say is somewhat
"strong" language, as in when Hal smashes his fist against the surface that covers the Green Element, & almost swears.

But let's look at these arguments in the context of the world today.

This is the age of information. Even the youngest viewers of this movie would very likely be aware of some of the "language" issues, & even with the way that Boodika was killed. I feel would have very little impact. With all the violence in video games today, I am sure that these kids have seen much worse than that. I would think that younger viewers would probably think that what happened to Boodika was "cool". But actually be "affected", I can't see this happening.

What I though was so great about this movie, was the exciting storyline, the ruthlessness of Sinestro, the compassion that Hal Jordan showed, and particularly the great voice casting.

With people like Victor Garber, (who played the part of Christ in the Broadway & movie versions of GODSPELL), as Sinestro, John Larroquette, (from NIGHT COURT), as Tomar-Re, William Schallert, (from the Patty Duke Show), as the Guardian Appa Ali Apsa, Malachi Throne, (Falseface from the Adam West BATMAN series) as the voice of the Guardian Ranakar, Olivia D'Abo, (the Black Widow from the ULTIMATE AVENGERS MOVIES), as the voice of Carol Ferris, & the great Rob Paulsen, as the voice of the Weaponeers.

No-I don't accept the criticism of this movie. I feel that it is unwarranted & unjustified.

All the elements came together in a very compelling & exciting storyline, & this is how Green Lantern:First Flight should be viewed.

These are strictly my thoughts.

I hope that I have not offended anyone, as that is never my intent.

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Old 02-28-2012, 03:10 PM   #2
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It wasn't the right place to put it, but now it is.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:13 PM   #3
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:18 PM   #4
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As far as the "adult" elements of the movie, I don't find them to be a criticism of the movie, per se, since it WAS rated PG-13. More of a personal disappointment, really, since I would have liked the first GL animated movie to be something I could share with my kids, and this was NOT that.

I find your arguments on that score somewhat odd. They seem to boil down to, "There's worse stuff out there that kids might have already seen, so there's no reason to object to showing them this." Kids might easily come across hard-core porn on the web. Does that mean it should be OK to sit down with the family and watch soft-core porn? As a parent, I get to decide what I think is appropriate for my kids, and even if, as is certainly possible (or even likely) I fail to fully shield them from some of this stuff in their tender years, I don't think that gives me license to just say, "Eh, they probably saw something worse, I'll show 'em this." I think there's a big difference between kids coming across stuff or hearing it on the playground and having their parents deliberately expose them to it, since the latter indicates parental APPROVAL. Now obviously not everybody draws the lines in the same place, and that's their choice.

But again, I don't criticize the violence or language of the movie, as it was PG-13 and the levels were appropriate to that rating. I just didn't show it to my kids.

As far as not being true to the comic, you raise somewhat of a straw man by implying that those who would make this criticism are somehow expecting it to "100% true to the comic book", when I would bet that is NOT the case. Myself, I felt the tone was a bit grimmer than the comic, regardless of the specific continuity details, and that kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but I did enjoy it (even though I kept falling asleep trying to watch it). New Frontier was not "100% true to the comic book", yet most people thought that was a good flick, I think because it hit the high points and kept the same tone. I enjoyed New Frontier FAR more than First Flight.

I also want to say, I find this line:

"No-I don't accept the criticism of this movie. I feel that it is unwarranted & unjustified."

a bit strong for somebody that is otherwise going out of their way to stress that this is just their opinion, and not meant to offend anybody. Not that I have a problem with the statement, or am offended. I don't and I'm not. It just seemed to strike a different tone from the rest of the post. Kind of like saying, "Now this is just my opinion, but my opinion is that YOUR opinion is wrong and unsupportable."
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:35 PM   #5
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Interesting. I liked it from day 1.
I never really heard of the "too-adult" complaint, but I'd have to agree with Ed's point that "they've probably seen worse" isn't a really good standard for whether something's appropriate. That said, FF's content was appropriate for the rating it got.

BTW: D'abo is the Princess in Conan to me. Never seen the Avengers flick.

@Mister Ed: at least you have the new animated show. The DVDs should prove family appropriate.
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@Mister Ed: at least you have the new animated show. The DVDs should prove family appropriate.
I'm hoping so. Of course I'm unwilling to buy seasons sight unseen, don't have cable, and am also unwilling to watch pirated versions, so it may be a while before I ever pick up any DVDs. Maybe my library will get the seasons so I can make an informed decision. They get all the Clone Wars seasons.

Ah well, such is the downside of being too cheap to get cable or satellite.
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Hm, I didn't care for First Flight, but it had nothing to do with what you listed. Didn't care about the level of violence or lack of following the comics. My complaints boil down to the weak plot and characterization. My big critique of the film is not showing any training with the ring. He gets the ring and is instantly great with it. If they wanted to start the film after that critical time, that would be one thing. Instead, they show him getting the ring and boom, he's great with it.

I also don't get a great sense of who Hal is with this. He's forgettable. If you weren't already invested in his character, you wouldn't care about this guy. His big moments (particularly the end) seem like he just lucks into them. "Hal Jordan: You have the power of great happenstance."

I didn't think the whole movie was bad. The animation was rather well done and Sinestro was rather interesting. It has been a few years since I've watched this film, so I can't recall all of the problems I had. I don't make a habit of rewatching movies I thoroughly disliked the first time.
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:38 PM   #8
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Why would anyone criticisethe adult bits in it. In my opinion there's not enougth, infact I think that most of these animations are too childish for me, not including Superman: doomsday or Batman: Gotham Knight.
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I agree, Deadpool. Way too childish. Sure First Flight was a little edgy, but we need more of that. That's one of the reasons many of these animated DC/Marvel films bore me. I really enjoyed First Flight despite some of the odd liberties taken. You should be allowed some liberties in any adaptation.

The only genuine fault of the film besides nitpicks would be how Hal Jordan gets so good with the ring so quickly without even a montage to show how he gets to that point. Other than that, I don't see how this film can't be enjoyed. They nail Sinestro, in my opinion. His arc was believable and exciting. Some of the strange changes they made to specifics within that arc cue my nerd alert, but so what? What's the point of seeing it happen exactly the same way as in the comics? I've already read that. I want to see a different perspective; something new. As long as they get the soul of the character right, some liberties should be expected and welcomed.

I really dug all the voice acting as well, even Hal Jordan. Nathan Fillion is, of course, excellent, but Christopher Meloni sounds great as Jordan! I think they wrote Hal pretty darn close to who he is, and maybe even got it as spot on as Sinestro, but this certainly lent more to a Sinestro arc than Hal Jordan. Disappointingly, Jordan didn't have much of an arc, really, but at least they got the character right.

I think the constructs were a little weak, but that's more of a nerd alert. Otherwise, the action was fun and on an immense scale. And I felt the subtle cop-thriller angle suits the GL story. I'd like to see this implemented to a much stronger degree in the future. First Flight is really fun. I really don't see much to dislike about it.
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Well said.
Enjoy it for what it is people! It may have been a little rushed, but it's only like an hour and a half. For what it is, I liked it, it was a more modern version of the clasic green lantern mythos, and a dam sight better than that god awfull green lantern movie (I still prefered it to Captin America though). Annother animated film I loved was hulk vs wolverine, it was full of blood, guts, and deadpool! It was a nice, dark, and mature take on the marvel universe.

I tell y'all what'd be an interesting next animated film. Blackest night.
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Enjoy it for what it is people! It may have been a little rushed, but it's only like an hour and a half.
I WISH it was an hour and a half. These 70 minute runtimes are a HUGE detriment to some of these films.

I still can't get over the fact that they are likely breaking Dark Knight Returns into two films, each with this kind of skimpy runtime. If the two halves are indeed 70 minutes, nothing but plain and simple greed prevents them from releasing it as ONE normal, theatrical-length film.
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That's the way of the word nowadays though. Full of greedy bastards like me.
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I thought FF's plot was stronger than it's live-action counterpart. FF got right to the action and it was well paced. It also showcased the diversity and feel of the Corps effectively.
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Yeah, it was definately more enjoyable then the live action film.
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