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Old 07-02-2012, 11:19 PM   #26
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The MAX universe is a horrible, violent place. It has killed the Punisher and it's full of blood. Of course, fans wouldn't have it any other way. And now, Marvel is bringing one character to that world that, while a seemingly perfect fit, has never made an appearance. That's right: Wolverine MAX is on the way.

The series will be written by crime author Jason Starr, who also recently contributed to Marvel with The Untold Tales of Punisher MAX #1. I talked with Starr about the book, an ongoing series that will debut in October. You can also enjoy the awesome cover to issue #1 from none other than Jock:
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IGN Comics: First, congrats on the book! You also just had a story for the Untold Tales of Punisher MAX series Ė what draws you to the MAX universe?

Jason Starr: The MAX universe is a natural for me as a reader and writer, definitely my favorite line in all of comics. Iíve been a fan of the MAX books for years, especially Punisher MAX. I remember reading Garth Ennisís stuff for the first time and how blown away I was. The whole concept of MAX, its total irreverence, resonated with me because it reminded me of the work of my favorite crime writers, such as Jim Thompson, Charles Willeford, and Patricia Highsmith. They were never afraid to push the envelope and risk offending everybody, and I found the same was true in the MAX books.

This was such a revelation for me because it seemed that way too many fiction writers had been playing it safe and shying away from taking risks. The line also resonated with me because for years Iíd always taken a ďto hell with itĒ approach with my own crime novels. In my books Iíve always tried to let loose, never hold back, go for what is true and honest in a story, and never censor myself or compromise my vision just to please some readers. I believe you have to write as if your family and friends donít exist, and that is the whole vibe I get from the MAX books.

IGN: Youíre primarily known as a crime novelist Ė is the transition to monthly comics something that youíve been wanting to do for a while, or was it simply the draw of the project?

Starr: A combination. Iíve been looking for the right opportunity to do a monthly and Iím beyond psyched that itís going to be Wolverine MAX. A couple of years ago, I wrote a graphic novel for Vertigo Crime, and then I did some more work for DC, including working with Brian Azzarello on First Wave. I learned so much from Brian, that was a real honor. My Justice Inc. back-up in First Wave was a monthly and I loved the challenge of building a story from month to month.

IGN: How is a MAX version of Wolverine Ė aside from an upped violence factor Ė different from the Logan we know in the normal Marvel Universe?

Starr: First off, yeah, there will be a lot of in-your-face violence, but it wonít be gratuitous. The violence will always come naturally from the characters and the storylines. To me ďMAXĒ means going all the way, taking it to the max, letting loose, putting the pedal to the floor, but that doesnít mean gratuitousóit means real, it means honest. And there are other, more subtle ways to push the envelope besides violence and sex. For example, I can push the envelope psychologically as well, reach into the darkness of Loganís mind, and I intend to do that frequently.

IGN: Assuming that the X-Men donít exist in the MAX universe, how is Loganís life altered by their absence?

Starr: Logan has often been portrayed as a loner, and Iím going to play that up, get into every aspect of his aloneness, and loneliness. What does it feel like to be alone for hundreds of years, to feel unconnected to anything? This has had a big influence on Loganís life and I want readers to get that.

IGN: Can you give us a general idea of the kind of plot we should be expecting in your first issues?

Starr: Donít want to give away any secrets here, but itís a plot that will take place in modern day Japan, and back to a time during Loganís youth in Japan many years ago.

IGN: The solicitation suggests ďa new look at Wolverineís past.Ē Will you be revamping the characterís origin for the MAX Universe? How much of a role will the reveal of that past play in your ongoing story?

Starr: There will be some alterations to the back story that will help define Wolverineís place in this universe, but all the changes will have a purpose. I donít want to change anything just for the sake of changing it, and Iím always going to stay true to the soul of his character. The past is going to play a big role, as his past defines who is today. This dynamic of the pastís influence on the present interests me very much, and I see Logan as a sort of detective investigating his own mind, questioning his own experiences, a sort of ongoing self discovery project.

IGN: Is Wolverine a character that youíre drawn to in general? How do you manage writing such a different version of the character while retaining the things you enjoyed him in the first place?

Starr: Wolverine is my favorite character in all of comics which is why Iím so excited about this project. Over the past couple of years, Iíve written two modern werewolf novels for Penguin, The Pack and The Craving, so Iím definitely drawn, in general, to characters with wolf-like tendencies. But, to me, what makes Wolverine so intriguing is his psychology. More so than perhaps any other hero, there is a complexity to him that makes him endlessly fascinating, and I think thatís why so many writers have wanted to get a crack at him and why fans have been so enthralled. In the MAX books, it wonít be so much as what parts of Wolverine are retained, but which are accentuated. I want to focus on aspects of his personality that havenít been focused on very much before.

IGN: Are there any members of Wolverineís general supporting cast that youíd be interesting in importing to the MAX Universe?

Starr: There will be some familiar faces, but they will also be retooled to fit the storylines. Victor Creed, a personal favorite, will be involved, and some others.

IGN: Anything else youíd like to add about Wolverine MAX?

Starr: Just that, as a fan of comics, Iíve been waiting for the marriage of Wolverine and MAX for years, it seemed like such a natural to me. And now, to be the creator of itówell, that just amps up my enthusiasm to a whole other level.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:07 AM   #27
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Uhhh which mutants has she killed exactly??
just her being alive is getting mutants killed, and thanks to all the time travelers we know how bad things will get cause of her

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Old 07-03-2012, 04:34 AM   #28
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just her being alive is getting mutants killed, and thanks to all the time travelers we know how bad things will get cause of her


Elaborate.
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will cause of her a town in Alaska was taken off the map, 7 mutants were killed during Messiah CompleX, 5 were killed during Second Coming (11 were badly injured), god only knows just how many were killed from now til we get to Bishops timeline

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will cause of her a town in Alaska was taken off the map, 7 mutants were killed during Messiah CompleX, 5 were killed during Second Coming (11 were badly injured)

...Dear God, man, pick up a Dictionary and put that first part in HUMAN words! And as for the deaths surrounding those two events, name any one of them that was DIRECTLY HER FAULT. It's not her fault people are fighting and dying over her, it's just the way the events unfolded.
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...Dear God, man, pick up a Dictionary and put that first part in HUMAN words!


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And as for the deaths surrounding those two events, name any one of them that was DIRECTLY HER FAULT. It's not her fault people are fighting and dying over her, it's just the way the events unfolded.
well if she wasn't born none of them would of died duh
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well if she wasn't born none of them would of died duh

That claim could be made of SO MANY OTHER characters that I can't believe we're even having this conversation...
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That claim could be made of SO MANY OTHER characters that I can't believe we're even having this conversation...
well she is the so called "mutant messiah" so.......
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well she is the so called "mutant messiah" so.......

...And? Holy wars have always been bloody, real or fictional.
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...And? Holy wars have always been bloody, real or fictional.
and that's why i said she's killing mutants lift and right, h@ll she's also the reason the X-Men and Avengers are fighting now, what more reasons do i have to give to show that she's not a good thing for the X-Men?
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and that's why i said she's killing mutants lift and right, h@ll she's also the reason the X-Men and Avengers are fighting now, what more reasons do i have to give to show that she's not a good thing for the X-Men?

Actually, it's the Phoenix who's largely responsible for that; the Avengers are reacting to it's arrival by trying to detain Hope, not the other way around. And, again, name on death that is her fault directly. ...I'll wait.
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Actually, it's the Phoenix who's largely responsible for that; the Avengers are reacting to it's arrival by trying to detain Hope, not the other way around.
potato potahto "my friend" their still at war with one another and Hopes part of the reason (just the the whole part )

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potato potahto "my friend" their still at war with one another and Hopes part of the reason (just the the whole part )

Did you seriously just ignore what I said? IT'S THE PHOENIX. Yeah, Hope is viewed as a potential risk and possible receptacle for the Phoenix Force, but, as shown, it's just as happy to posses five other beings, four of whom are not even telepathic to begin with and have never been touched by it before. Not only that, but the Phoenix bluntly says Hope CAN'T possess the power because she didn't want it! She TURNED AWAY from the genocidal force of death!




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If you want to get technical, Kurt jumped in the way of his own volition. He could have just stepped aside and watched her die, but he was a self-sacrificing type of person and died, not because of Hope, but for her instead.
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If you want to get technical, Kurt jumped in the way of his own volition. He could have just stepped aside and watched her die, but he was a self-sacrificing type of person and died, not because of Hope, but for her instead.
she could of used her powers to get both him and her away before any of that happened


oh and before you say "her power weren't awake yet"

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tell that to the bullet she stopped with her mind
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she could of used her powers to get both him and her away before any of that happened


oh and before you say "her power weren't awake yet"

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tell that to the bullet she stopped with her mind

You mean entirely by accident where she had previously shown no inclination to telekinesis and hasn't shown any more since? Her main power set isn't even telepathy and/or telekinesis! It's power mimicry, and by that logic she could only leech off of Nightcrawler and only when he got near enough to her that she could do such a thing, at which point Kurt got STABBED IN THE CHEST.
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none of the other mutants she's "copied" (btw i think of her more of a copier then a mimicker of mutant powers but that's just me) have been that close to her


btw she and him where telporting all over the US, so yeah she had time to copy his power


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none of the other mutants she's "copied" (btw i think of her more of a copier then a mimicker of mutant powers but that's just me) have been that close to her


btw she and him where telporting all over the US, so yeah she had time to copy his power


i win

Yes, she totally should had predicted an ambush mid-teleport and thought to copy a mutant's power when she HAD ONLY BEEN IN THE VICINITY OF MORE MUTANTS FOR BARELY A DAY AND BARELY DISCOVERED HER POWER YET, IF AT ALL.
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Obviously, Connor Macleod is going to become the Phoenix.
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Actually, it's the Phoenix who's largely responsible for that; the Avengers are reacting to it's arrival by trying to detain Hope, not the other way around. And, again, name one death that is her fault directly. ...I'll wait.
actually, Id say Cable: theyd only come back to this time-period becuz (iirc) she thought she was & and was bored of where they were b4.........




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X-POSITION: GREG PAK EXPLORES "X-TREME X-MEN"
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Greg Pak Talks X-Treme X-Men

Go behind the scenes of Marvel's newest mutant launch and learn all about Dazzler's new team of extra-dimensional X-Men companions from writer Greg Pak!

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So I picked up Wolverine #310 today. It was part 1 of Sabretooth Reborn. Here's my review:


The art was, as always from Bianchi, beautiful to the point of inducing tears. He had empty space in some panels and certain angles were not conducive to good flow/reading, but that aside, he's magnificent.

That aside, Loeb dropped the fucking ball. He has Logan flash back to decapitating Creed with the second Muramasa Blade and then exclaiming surprise at Creed's alleged survival...when the previous arc, Back in Japan, had him meeting and fighting Creed a few times, and that story took place after Evolution. Read: Jeph Loeb doesn't keep up with the times.

The fight in the rebuilt cabin wasn't too bad (see first paragraph), but it felt like the characters were not scripted properly, as if Loeb is forcing them into place. The whole interaction felt ham-fisted. The previous scene, when Logan and Cloak dig up Creed's corpse, was something I really should have seen coming, given the solicits I'd seen earlier: Creed is still there, rotting to the bone, but is probably a clone, and Logan speculates that something was off when he killed Creed back in Evolution.

The last scene, at the rebuilt Weapon X facility, was what everyone knew would come after seeing the solicited cover for issue 311: Sabretooth clones, and tons of them.

Given everything, there are only two scenarios:

1) Creed was really killed on Earth and in Hell and a clone has replaced him, and Logan's "something wasn't right when I killed him" comment is ultimately a red herring.

2) A crazed clone was killed and its soul was sent to Hell while the real Sabretooth laid low.

Overall, the issue was a really pretty train wreck. If it wasn't for the art being both of my favorite male Marvel character and so gorgeous, I wouldn't even bother with Loeb's brain farts
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I also browsed Uncanny X-Men #15 and found it to be a little bit of a major upgrade for Sinister. Art was decent and the Victorian-style garb was catchy. Might pick up this trade later on.
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