Can we save more Lanterns from the Emerald Space?

[EmeraldGladiator]

I know that there are some that can't come back, Abin, Tomar Re, but could we possibly free a few other Lanterns from the Emerald Space thanks to Hal's special ability along with Kyle's White Lantern ones. It would seem to me that Hal would at least try to free them all but maybe Abin and Tomar are too long gone. Too many great Lanterns have been needlessly slaughtered in past events that would be very enjoyable to have on the active roster again.

[Space Cop]

I vote for Ch'p.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

I say bring Tomar Re back anyway. If I could pick one it'd be him. They've done dumber stuff in comics over the years. Bring him back the best way they can, then move on and make it settled. In fact, they should have brought him back with the nu52 or Rebirth and ignored he ever died in the first place. If we can accept that John was a marine, we can forget that Tomar Re was ever dead at all.

[Space Cop]

Tomar was a favorite of mine as a kid, but if I could only have one, squirrel in overalls > fish-bird. That's just science.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

Science!

[Mister.Weirdo]

Tomar would be cool, but with Tomar-Tu currently taking his place, I think his role might be considered a bit redudant. Personally I'd like to see Arkkis again, if any Lantern were to suddenly come back from the dead.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

Ooh! Arkkis! I liked him! Arkkis was like the GLC's version of a Klingon. His type of character always has a place in the ensemble cast GLC titles. Good choice.

[Space Cop]

Chance can stay dead. Always felt like a Lobo ripoff and I don't like Lobo.

[Star-Lantern]

Hmm... If I was to resurrect any, it would be Ch'p and Katma. I think both are really important characters (relatively) who died really, really, REALLY dumb throwaway deaths. However, Ch'p's death did further the plot of Mosaic along quite a bit. And yet, if DC is never going to acknowledge Mosaic, why acknowledge Ch'p's death?

That's the fan in me speaking, but if I was a writer on these titles... I probably wouldn't bring back any of them unless I got the opportunity to write during a massive continuity overhaul, and I could decide what did and didn't happen. Then I'd just write it so Ch'p and Katma never died.

However, taking DC's current continuity into account, I would feel weird about incorporating Katma with Soranik being as important a character as she is. While I like Katma better, I generally think that they're too similar to have around at the same time, and whatever you want to do with Katma, you could do with Soranik, so I would just leave Katma dead. Well... it depends on how you would want to play it, I guess. You could play Soranik as being the Sinestro Corps counterpart to Katma, so you can make it work. However, that goofy evil counterpart thing usually works a little smoother when one of the characters is good and the other is clearly evil, which wouldn't be the case with Soranik and Katma. You'd just have two very similar characters. At the least, I think one of them should grow considerably longer hair to better differentiate them visually (I'd probably have Katma's longer).

[Space Cop]

Originally Posted by Star-Lantern

Hmm... If I was to resurrect any, it would be Ch'p and Katma. I think both are really important characters (relatively) who died really, really, REALLY dumb throwaway deaths. . .

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Star-Lantern

However, taking DC's current continuity into account, I would feel weird about incorporating Katma with Soranik being as important a character as she is. . .

I don't know. I think most of the "problems" you could make actual good stories from: what happens when a presumed dead lantern returns and has been replaced for years? How does a man react when he's moved on and his wife/love-of-his-life comes back from beyond? Those bits (even if they're a bit soap opera--what comic isn't?) could be done well.

[Mister Ed]

If Katma came back and they DIDN'T address her relationship with John, it would be beyond disappointing. I'd rather she stayed dead than have that happen.

[EmeraldGladiator]

Originally Posted by Space Cop

Thank you.



I don't know. I think most of the "problems" you could make actual good stories from: what happens when a presumed dead lantern returns and has been replaced for years? How does a man react when he's moved on and his wife/love-of-his-life comes back from beyond? Those bits (even if they're a bit soap opera--what comic isn't?) could be done well.

There was a classic black and white movie, "My Favorite Wife" which handled it very well without making either of the female love interests the villain. Your first great love vs the new one that is suited to the person that you are now. The Katma scene has me thinking they have something in mind for her. She wasn't just a familiar silhouette but had maybe the most powerful lines in the issue. That plus the Hal line about her dying twice. Third time's the charm.
As for resurrecting Lanterns, Arkiss was the first Lantern to die that really hurt so he is forever on my list. Some were killed off screen by Grayven in some stupid event to make him look good, like Hollika Rahn. I am not sure how or if Kreon and other unseen Lantern's are dead and while Boodikka, Laira and Jack T Chance died memorable deaths recently they were unique Lanterns and I would like it if they came back, the female warrior Lantern, the ninja lantern and the Lobo lantern. I know Kylaax killed Chance but Kyle also 'killed' Major Force and he shows up all the time.

[jonasmorking]

I can't find anywhere that Kyle died during the new 52 or in Omega men (I'm guessing that you have to be dead in order to reach the emerald place.
Can someone please explain? Is it explained later, I just read issue 9 (I'm a bit behind since I live in Sweden.

[Mister.Weirdo]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Dave Targaryen I

Ooh! Arkkis! I liked him! Arkkis was like the GLC's version of a Klingon. His type of character always has a place in the ensemble cast GLC titles. Good choice.

He was also the first GL alien lantern to be introduced in a back-up story.

Good character, and I think there's a lot of potential that could have been done with the character, if they hadn't decided kill him off during the crisis.

[Star-Lantern]

Originally Posted by Mister.Weirdo

He was also the first GL alien lantern to be introduced in a back-up story.

Good character, and I think there's a lot of potential that could have been done with the character, if they hadn't decided kill him off during the crisis.

I could be wrong, but I think... I think... Arkkiss died in an annual in the 80s. Oh yeah, he did. I think he was fighting... Maaldor or someone. Makes no difference, though

It was a long ago forgotten event. It's interesting how some of these Green Lanterns have managed to retain a bit of relevance and presence even after being dead for decades. I think that is mostly due to animation. Katma has had some really big roles in cartoons, and Ch'p has left a mark there, too. Same with Arkkiss and Tomar. Whenever Green Lantern stuff gets adapted, it seems the developers use the classic characters instead of the stand-ins.

I would like to see K'ryssma return. I always thought she pretty cool, and as alien GL's go, she was pretty important in the '80s.

[Evergreen City]

Dalor of Timron. His disappearance always haunted me.

Charlie Vicker.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Evergreen City

Dalor of Timron. His disappearance always haunted me.

Charlie Vicker.

I'd go for BOTH of those!

[Big Blue Lantern]

Originally Posted by Space Cop

Thank you.



I don't know. I think most of the "problems" you could make actual good stories from: what happens when a presumed dead lantern returns and has been replaced for years? How does a man react when he's moved on and his wife/love-of-his-life comes back from beyond? Those bits (even if they're a bit soap opera--what comic isn't?) could be done well.

I've actually been expecting a story like that with Abin Sur at some point since no one of any importance seems to stay dead forever in comics. He gets resurrected, but he sees that Jordan has surpassed him. He wants to join the Corps again, but no new rings find their way to him for whatever reason. He goes soul-searching because his identity was tied so closely to being a Lantern. When he finds reason to *hope* again, we know who would come calling.

[Mister.Weirdo]

Originally Posted by Star-Lantern

I could be wrong, but I think... I think... Arkkiss died in an annual in the 80s. Oh yeah, he did. I think he was fighting... Maaldor or someone. Makes no difference, though

It was a long ago forgotten event. It's interesting how some of these Green Lanterns have managed to retain a bit of relevance and presence even after being dead for decades. I think that is mostly due to animation. Katma has had some really big roles in cartoons, and Ch'p has left a mark there, too. Same with Arkkiss and Tomar. Whenever Green Lantern stuff gets adapted, it seems the developers use the classic characters instead of the stand-ins.

I would like to see K'ryssma return. I always thought she pretty cool, and as alien GL's go, she was pretty important in the '80s.

You're right my bad, and I should have known better since I have that issue collected.

I just think it's cause the older lanterns tended to look the most interesting design-wise, and since the animators may or may not read 80's and 90's GL comics, they remember those particularly designed GL lanterns most of all.

K'ryssma would be nice to have back. She had an interesting concept, being a "being" of energy. She was also part of the GL power guard along with Tomar-Re and Apros (the only one of the three who's still alive, ha-ha)!

[Mister Ed]

So, do you think Tomar Tu as Tomar Re's son was a deliberate retcon, or just lack of research and the writer making the same assumption that they were related that Hal made when he first met Tomar Tu?

[Space Cop]

Originally Posted by Mister Ed

So, do you think Tomar Tu as Tomar Re's son was a deliberate retcon, or just lack of research and the writer making the same assumption that they were related that Hal made when he first met Tomar Tu?

You know I had thought for a moment "he's not his son," but then figured I just forgot their relationship. Thanks for reminding me. My guess would be that it was a mistake, but it's possible an editor or someone let it through as a retcon.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

Definitely a mistake. The writer's don't read every past issue like we do. It would be easily missed.

[Trey Strain]

Hell, it's hard for me to keep track of who's dead. Killing Jack T. Chance was stupid.

[Big Daddy Dave Skywalker]

It's funny, GLs have such a short life expectancy after joining the Corps. I'd like to see another short story of a retiring GL's last adventure, and living happily ever after. It's been a dog's age since they have done one of those.

[EmeraldGladiator]

Originally Posted by Trey Strain

Hell, it's hard for me to keep track of who's dead. Killing Jack T. Chance was stupid.

To torment Kyle when Kyle hasn't given him too much of a second thought, not that he has had too many places to even think it. Killing fan favorite Lanterns for shock value or add gravity is dumb. Arkiss dying in that one off story was dumb, making Laira cool only to have her go red then dead was dumb, the Alpha Lantern plot wasn't good enough reason to lose Boodikka, Hollika Rahn died with hundreds of other Lanterns fighting Grayven. Kreon dies in a forgettable Manhunter storyline. Katma dying at the hands of Carol no longer seems to be that big of a deal since John has no issues with Carol anymore. The only one I didn't have much of a problem with was Tomar Re, only because since Hal had to get his ring back at the end of Crisis, someone had to give a ring to John, it being an unknown Lantern wouldn't have had the same gravitas.

As much as I loved Ch'p and I did, that story in Mosaic, in fact that entire run was so epic I want it to be cannon. As much as I like the Fatality possibility with John and ambivalent when it comes to a John Sora ship. If they brought Rose back into John's life, if only to reference the Mosaic years I wouldn't be opposed.