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Old 07-14-2011, 11:44 PM   #1
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Default Could Kyle Hook Up With Carol?!? He does.

On the off-chance that it is Carol in the New Guardians book, what would it do to the GLU if Kyle had a fling with Hal's ex? I don't think it would be as meaningless as Tempest hooking up with Dolphin in the Aquaman books, and I could see Guy giving Hal hell for Kyle stealing his main squeeze.

Would you support it? Would it piss you off? At the very least Kyle would be hooked up with an Earth woman again....

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No. It would create the type of drama that I just have no interest in reading.
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Anything at this point would be better than Kyle being attached at the hip to Natu....

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good god no............. i don't want Carol to die
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good god no............. i don't want Carol to die


In all seriousness do you really wanna give Hal fans another reason to hate Kyle?
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:03 AM   #6
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I think it's a good idea. If it's done right that is.
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Hilarious.

Going beyond that, I think this would just be a misguided mechanism to trumpet Kyle, or at least an attempt to make him more...relevant? Because right now he's off in the corner of the GLC cafeteria, sharing a frappaccino and scone with Natu.

But it'd end up giving off the same vibe DC did in the 90s with the whole legacy/retro model: Take a concept or supporting character from the Silver Age, foist it upon a 20-something Gen-X character, then show why it was ultimately un-kewel and discard it.

Carol Ferris? Not getting discarded.

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Could it happen? Anything is possible

Is it a good idea? No way. It would be artificial shock value dross. He doesn't need to be with anyone. Especially not Carol. Besides, if Hal is her type then I doubt she would go for Kyle.

However as we have seen, at the moment DC is all about stupid ideas.
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Is it a good idea? No way. It would be artificial shock value dross.
That's all Kyle has ever been.
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That's all Kyle has ever been.
He has good stories.
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That's all Kyle has ever been.
You mean Hal for the past seven years.
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It would be artificial shock value dross.
Really? I don't think so at all. I mean, yes, I would be surprised, but only because Carol is almost as much a part of Hal's character as Alex is a part of Kyle's. The only thing that's artificial is the unwritten rule that superheroes can't date each other's primary love interests!

I would actually be impressed if Kyle and Carol were allowed to have a relationship. It would be a genuinely bold move, unlike other recent "shocking" plot twists such as the "new GL of Sector 2814."

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Why? I'd like to see better justification than getting Hal and Kyle to interact.
Because it would make for a far more interesting character story than anything we've seen in several years. I have never really bought into Kyle's relationship with Sora; that's the relationship that seems artificial and forced to me. There have been moments when I almost believe it, but they've been short lived.

As for Kyle and Carol, Carol expressed pretty strongly in Brightest Day that she's done with Hal, and that she no longer even thinks that what they had was "true love." And Hal supposedly has a girlfriend anyway.

So why wouldn't Carol eventually be looking for someone else? And why couldn't that someone else be Kyle? Kyle is very different from Hal in key ways that could make him attractive to Carol, given the nature of her frustrations with Hal. And if they're on this team together, literally the only human beings within light years of each other, I don't think it would be artificial at all. In fact, it could potentially be much more natural than Kyle's relationship with Sora.

I do think that it would put a monster sized twist in the friendship between Hal and Kyle. But I also think that the characters' history with Hal would make the relationship between Kyle and Carol more interesting. I don't personally have a problem with relational drama in comic books the way some people do; I actually like it. This could create a lot of interesting drama--not between Kyle and Hal, but between Kyle and Carol. I'd like to see how they would deal with the fact that Hal is Carol's ex.

But even if you ignore that obvious drama, Kyle and Carol have very different perspectives when it comes to Hal. Kyle has spent much of his career living up to Hal's example or striving to get out of his shadow. Carol has been Hal's lover, yes, but also his superior and his rival. With or without romantic involvement, I would be interested in seeing how that plays out in their relationship.
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And if they're on this team together, literally the only human beings within light years of each other
That's part of the problem. We have no idea how they react to each other and yet a pairing is already being proposed. Why? Just because they are the only two humans and are of the opposite sex doesn't mean there has to be a love story in there. There is plenty of life in an idea of functioning as team mates or as part of an un-easy alliance.

Carol has spent years being the love part of Green Lantern to the point where they retrofitted her identity as Star Sapphire with some ill defined love powers. How can you take Carol seriously if every story she's in involved in is spent clinging to a man? Kyle has already had 3 romantic relationships form defining points in his life and his career. Why go back to that? They've done it 3 times already.

I say enough of the constant romantic baggage with Kyle and Carol and let them engage in a different story and a different dynamic.
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Because it would make for a far more interesting character story than anything we've seen in several years. I have never really bought into Kyle's relationship with Sora; that's the relationship that seems artificial and forced to me. There have been moments when I almost believe it, but they've been short lived.

As for Kyle and Carol, Carol expressed pretty strongly in Brightest Day that she's done with Hal, and that she no longer even thinks that what they had was "true love." And Hal supposedly has a girlfriend anyway.

So why wouldn't Carol eventually be looking for someone else? And why couldn't that someone else be Kyle? Kyle is very different from Hal in key ways that could make him attractive to Carol, given the nature of her frustrations with Hal. And if they're on this team together, literally the only human beings within light years of each other, I don't think it would be artificial at all. In fact, it could potentially be much more natural than Kyle's relationship with Sora.

I do think that it would put a monster sized twist in the friendship between Hal and Kyle. But I also think that the characters' history with Hal would make the relationship between Kyle and Carol more interesting. I don't personally have a problem with relational drama in comic books the way some people do; I actually like it. This could create a lot of interesting drama--not between Kyle and Hal, but between Kyle and Carol. I'd like to see how they would deal with the fact that Hal is Carol's ex.

But even if you ignore that obvious drama, Kyle and Carol have very different perspectives when it comes to Hal. Kyle has spent much of his career living up to Hal's example or striving to get out of his shadow. Carol has been Hal's lover, yes, but also his superior and his rival. With or without romantic involvement, I would be interested in seeing how that plays out in their relationship.
But I think you're making an assumption that DC would do the relationship right and make it feel genuine which I just don't see them doing. I think Carol is so tied to Hal that any type of romantic entanglement between her and Kyle would just be done for the shock value and would obviously be short term. Basically I think we'd end up with something just as artificial if not more than Kyle's current relationship with Natu all for some drama between Kyle and Hal...not worth it imo.

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I say enough of the constant romantic baggage with Kyle and Carol and let them engage in a different story and a different dynamic.
+1 on this. I think you can develop an interesting dynamic between them without having them be romantically involved.
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1) Carol is Hal's woman.

2) I don't want Carol to die.
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+1 on this. I think you can develop an interesting dynamic between them without having them be romantically involved.
Oh, I agree. I'm not saying it has to happen, or that it should happen, or even that it's likely to happen. I'm just saying that if it does happen, it has a lot of potential if written well. And I don't know whether Tony Bedard has been writing Kyle long enough to earn an expectation that he would write it badly.

I can certainly understand wanting Kyle to stay with Sora, or wanting him to be single. But in the event that neither of things happen, I can easily imagine some great stories coming out of a relationship with Carol.
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Yeah younger guys hook up with older women all the time, especially one's probably old enough to be there mother! It's a scary thought that's for sure!

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Yeah younger guys hook up with older women all the time, especially one's probably old enough to be there mother! It's a scary thought that's for sure!
Remember the main point of the new universe is to put a little youth back into the characters. If Hal has only be GL for roughly five years where does that put the others in terms of service and age?

To me it'd be like Kyle stealing the quarterback's cheerleader girlfriend. It's not something I'd want to see long term, but it could put Hal and Kyle at odds. As far as Lanterns partnering up, Hal and Kyle haven't done anything as a tag-team in the same sense that Hal's teamed with John and Guy a few times in the last couple years. They should've partnered up or had some interaction by now. If it takes sleeping with Carol to get Kyle and Hal in the same book without the rest of the Corps so be it.

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If it takes sleeping with Carol to get Kyle and Hal in the same book without the rest of the Corps so be it.
I'm sorry but that just sounds ridiculous and made me

Is the premise of Kyle hooking up with Carol plausible? Yes. Should it be done if the stole purpose is to get Kyle/Hal to interact with each other? Hell no, I mean even you have to admit that that kind of mindset just sounds ludicrous.
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If it takes sleeping with Carol to get Kyle and Hal in the same book without the rest of the Corps so be it.

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You know how they are both members of the same peacekeeping force with the same home planet in the same country. Would that not be reason enough to have them team up? Just a thought.
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Hal and Kyle haven't done anything as a tag-team in the same sense that Hal's teamed with John and Guy
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While looking over the thread, this made me LOL hard.

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Yeah younger guys hook up with older women all the time, especially one's probably old enough to be there mother! It's a scary thought that's for sure!
I doubt there is really that much of an age difference anymore. Johns' has confirmed that Hal is about 30. I wouldn't be surprised if Carol,Guy and John are in that region too. I think Kyle is early-mid 20s. So really really much of an age difference. I wouldn't classify Carol as a pedo or cradle robber [like Hal with Arisia before she was retconned to be over 200 years old] if some hack at DC thinks putting Carol and Kyle together is a good idea.
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Um GL is suppose to be mostly unaffected by the reboot. So I don't think anyone will be deaging (discounting the JLA reboot).
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Speaking of which has anyone read Green Lantern: Evil's Might?
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Speaking of which has anyone read Green Lantern: Evil's Might?
Is that the Elseworlds tale where Alan Scott and Kyle Rayner are Irish immigrants in olde New York?
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