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View Poll Results: Would you have bought "Parallax" as an ongoing series with Hal?
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Old 03-11-2015, 10:40 PM   #1
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Default Would you have bought a "Parallax" series starring Hal?



I mean, going back to the mid-to-late 90s, early 2000s when Hal was actively Parallax before the "Rebirth" retcon. If such a thing had come out around then.

For me, as much of a Kyle fan as I am, if I had to choose one series -- either a GL series starring Kyle or a Parallax series starring Hal -- I'd probably go with the Parallax series starring Hal. Hal as Parallax back in the day was a fascinating concept and made into a DCU powerhouse villain, filling a Vader/Magneto-esque role not really occupied by anyone else.

Now he's just another GL, perfect, all of his sins absolved. And back to zero personality. Great.
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Yes, I would have bought it, if only because it was a GL-related book. Whether I would have enjoyed it/stuck with it might have depended on how much time they spent trying to convince me retroactively that Hal's heel turn made perfect sense, and the signs were all there in advance. It didn't and they weren't, but that didn't mean that I didn't enjoy reading about him so long as they didn't keep trying to convince me otherwise.
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Well, I would have bought and read it because I'm a GL completist, but I only like Hal on the good side.
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Well, I would have bought and read it because I'm a GL completist, but I only like Hal on the good side.
He wasn't necessarily on the evil side. Not in his mind, anyway.
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He wasn't necessarily on the evil side. Not in his mind, anyway.
True. And it would be kind of fun if they found a way (although obviously temporarily) to actually show his fixed universe.
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Well, I would have bought and read it because I'm a GL completist, but I only like Hal on the good side.
I would have as well for the same reasons, but I would have DESPISED it. Same way I despised the Hal Spectre series. Ugh.
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True. And it would be kind of fun if they found a way (although obviously temporarily) to actually show his fixed universe.
If I recall, that glimpse in Parallax View was a pitched attempt by Marz to recreate some form of Earth-2 or such that was under Hal's governorship. But that was vetoed.

A pity. The same people that made Hal into Parallax simply wanted him to Vader sacrifice himself into death. He had potential.
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I would have bought the Parallax series just to see if they gave a better explanation for Hal losing his mind and killing the Corps. That really pissed me off as real heroes don't take those types of actions; they always find another way.
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I would have bought the Parallax series just to see if they gave a better explanation for Hal losing his mind and killing the Corps.
Didn't kill the Corps. I don't think we can account for a single GL that died as a direct result of Hal destroying the Central Power Battery. As he said, "I left them enough power to survive."

He maimed Boodikka, but she'd later be rebuilt into an Alpha-Lantern anyway. And Kilowog, well, he came back just fine down the line.
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Well, Hal did leave a great number of GL's floating in space with no rings, although he provided them with temporary life support bubbles. Even if he did leave them enough power to survive, with no GL's left, who would rescue them? I figured that they died, even if not directly from Hal, but his actions.
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Even if he did leave them enough power to survive, with no GL's left, who would rescue them?
The Darkstars? They were very much active at that time. And the life support bubbles or whatnot could have been directed to transport the GL inside to the nearest planet/space station.

Something clearly happened. Because there's not one GL you can name that died as a result of Hal's CPB explosion.
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The Darkstars? They were very much active at that time. And the life support bubbles or whatnot could have been directed to transport the GL inside to the nearest planet/space station.

Something clearly happened. Because there's not one GL you can name that died as a result of Hal's CPB explosion.
I thought we saw, in Guy's title, some evidence of GLs dying when their rings failed them.
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There was just no character there with Parallax. He was upset about stuff. big freaking deal. I mean I get that was the style in the 90's,but looking back it is even worse then I remember.

I mean the guy has seen entire planets destroyed,with out batting and eye. Some people will say oh but this was his home town,and that would be a valid point.If anyone he actually cared was there at the time Tom Carol, his Brother all fine. So it was a pretty weak premise to start with.


Goeff was right Parallax is not so much a character as it is a acessory,with more power. That's why it is so interchangeable. Hell Kyle even wore it before it became a space bug,he called himself Ion but it was the same thing,remaining Parralax power.
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If anyone he actually cared was there at the time Tom Carol, his Brother all fine. So it was a pretty weak premise to start with.
I forgot about that! They played it like this big permanent change, but made sure they got Carol, Tom, Jim and Jack with the family out of town so they'd have them for Hal's supporting cast later. I always thought that was funny on the editor's part.
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I forgot about that! They played it like this big permanent change, but made sure they got Carol, Tom, Jim and Jack with the family out of town so they'd have them for Hal's supporting cast later. I always thought that was funny on the editor's part.
Well, I think part of the problem was that, at the time that Coast City was destroyed, there was no plan to have Hal go nuts over it. I can only imagine that, if the plan from the beginning had been for Coast City's destruction to be Hal's breaking point, they would have made sure there was some kind of more direct and personal tragedy involved. As it stood, poor Marz had to invent a childhood sweetheart (that Hal hadn't seen in years, and logically had no idea if she even still lived in Coast City when it was destroyed) as the "personal" aspect of the destruction, because all Hal's supporting cast had ALREADY been confirmed as alive.
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Again. It would make a cool else worlds,but it had no place in the real continuity. Just like right now,DC has no idea how to handle Green Lantern.
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I thought we saw, in Guy's title, some evidence of GLs dying when their rings failed them.
Hm, in "Emerald Fallout"? I don't remember now. That's where a ring-less Arisia showed up and wielded a big gun, wasn't it?
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Hm, in "Emerald Fallout"? I don't remember now. That's where a ring-less Arisia showed up and wielded a big gun, wasn't it?
Probably. I thought I recalled Guy meeting up with Probert (I think that was his name) in space, and hearing tell of GL deaths due to the loss of power.
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Probably. I thought I recalled Guy meeting up with Probert (I think that was his name) in space, and hearing tell of GL deaths due to the loss of power.
I think it was all a mass-presumed death. Since many were stranded for a time, unable to let everyone know they were OK.
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I think it was all a mass-presumed death. Since many were stranded for a time, unable to let everyone know they were OK.
Well, in the instance I think I'm recalling, I thought Probert actually confirmed at least one specific death. If only my old comics weren't so hard to access right now, I'd try to track down what I'm remembering.
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I think it was loose continuity. If you needed to show Parallax as the ultimate villian the he slaughter all the Green Lanterns and the Guardians. However if you were doing a redemption story he only stole thier rings,and the Guardians commited a mass sucide.

One huge unavoiadable fact. Killowog got toasted.
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One huge unavoiadable fact. Killowog got toasted.


...and then, he broke Sinestro's neck. I really disliked the explanation that Hal really ended up killing a hard light construct created by Parallax. That was such a weak cop-out.
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It would have been if it were anybody but Sinestro. He already proved he could make non green hard light constructs in Emerald Dawn 2. Plus Killing Sinestro was no big deal,he already help zap him to death back in Volume 2.

Now what was stupid in the Guardians yelling at him you can't use your power to reserct people......... Now here is Sinestro back from the dead.

That book was sooooooo flawed. Mars should send Johns a Christmas card every year for trying to polish that turd and make it even make a little sense.
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...and then, he broke Sinestro's neck. I really disliked the explanation that Hal really ended up killing a hard light construct created by Parallax. That was such a weak cop-out.
I agree. And it seemed so unnecessary, too, given what was happening with the Spectre. Sinestro had come back from the dead there, once, and later (in JSA, I think) many of the Spectre's "victims" were returning from the grave. It would make total sense (given that we were told Sinestro and Parallax had worked together to bring about Hal's downfall) that Parallax, with access to the Spectre's power, might have made sure Sinestro stuck around at that point. Then we've got Sinestro back, but don't have to wonder why (if Sinestro was alive all along) he sat around doing very, very little all that time, as Hal's reputation was improved, the Guardians returned, etc. The fact that he picked that time to move would make more sense, because prior to then he had been dead.
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