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Old 12-03-2019, 07:12 PM   #1201
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Shatner really is the way Takei says he is. Or at least he was fifty years ago. James Doohan, Walter Koenig and Nichelle Nichols all said the same thing. So did many other people. My good friend who's an actor concurred. But when you get old, you need to get over your grudges. There's no point in clinging to them.
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:26 PM   #1202
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^There's a lot of very successful celebs who seem to be cut-throat self promoters. I love all the Beatles, but there's enough stories about McCartney's shrewd business sense to believe that too. Shatner does good work, but he's probably a jerk to work with for long periods of time and no one is going to say about him "he's a giving actor; it never goes to his head." That's a shame, but it doesn't squash my love of Captain Kirk.
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Old 12-04-2019, 09:29 PM   #1203
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Another loss in the Trek community:

D.C. Fontana, who helped shape Star Trek as its first woman writer, dies at 80

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Old 12-07-2019, 02:43 PM   #1204
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Oh no. That is such an enormous loss. I dont know if most fans will even understand how huge her contributions were.
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Old 12-16-2019, 06:52 PM   #1205
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Crud, it sounds like Tarantino is "steering away" from Star Trek. Probably because they're moving forward with that other milquetoast Star Trek movie at the same time.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/tarantin...er-final-film/
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Old 12-16-2019, 07:04 PM   #1206
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Hooray! Tarantino and Trek is such a terrible mismatch, I'll be very glad if that project never sees the light of day.
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Old 12-16-2019, 07:15 PM   #1207
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Hooray! Tarantino and Trek is such a terrible mismatch, I'll be very glad if that project never sees the light of day.
It would've been the first Star Trek movie worth watching in over 20 years.
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Old 12-16-2019, 07:54 PM   #1208
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It would've been the first Star Trek movie worth watching in over 20 years.
Not for me. Tarantino may be a skilled filmmaker, but he does not make movies I personally want to see, and all indications were that he was going to warp Trek to his sensibilities rather than respecting the property for what it is. I'd just as soon that he kept playing with his own toys rather than break somebody else's to fit his mold.
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Old 12-16-2019, 08:32 PM   #1209
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and all indications were that he was going to warp Trek to his sensibilities rather than respecting the property for what it is.
Have you taken a look at what Star Trek is right now? Because yikes.
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Old 12-16-2019, 08:54 PM   #1210
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Have you taken a look at what Star Trek is right now? Because yikes.
I'm not watching Discovery, no. I watch the nuTrek films as fun, SF popcorn flicks, not Star Trek (I'd probably be less inclined to do even that if SF as a film genre had more to offer me OUTSIDE those films these days. I find that a lot of SF tends to be horror in space, which holds no interest for me).

I read the novels, and still quite enjoy most of those.

Even if I were to agree that Star Trek needs to go in a different direction than it currently is, I'm certainly not going to agree that Tarantino's vision is likely to be the way it needs to go. Just because something is going wrong doesn't mean that ANY change is going to be right.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:07 PM   #1211
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My point is that your idea of what Star Trek is doesn't exist, and hasn't since the end of Enterprise 15 years ago. There is nothing for a Tarantino Star Trek to fly in the face of that already hasn't been flown in the face of for those said 15 years.

Maybe a Tarantino Star Trek would have had coarse language or whatever, but it would have been fresh and possibly would kick open doors for other stuff.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:39 PM   #1212
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Well, as I said, my idea of Star Trek is still alive and well in novel form, and has been pretty much continuously.

If there is really nothing left of Trek that should be preserved, then why still call it Star Trek?

If Tarantino Trek were successful, I have no reason to think it would do anything but encourage more of the same, which is unlikely to be a good development from my point of view. So yeah, I’ll be glad if it never happens. If it does, I’ll just ignore it, but I fear, if it were TOO successful, it might spell the end of the Trek I enjoy even in written form.
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Old 12-17-2019, 12:28 AM   #1213
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^I actually agree with Mr Ed despite being a Tarantino fan. He's a bad fit for it. I'd rather the property go into hibernation for a while then to continue in wrong directions and mismatched tones. There's enough old Trek out there to last a lifetime of re-watching (not to mention re-reading).
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Old 12-30-2019, 10:37 PM   #1214
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Interesting... Simon Pegg doesn't believe the upcoming 4th movie is going to involve his cast.

https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019/...P-DerD5iEtJJ9w
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So the "Star Trek: Picard" is about Trump and Brexit:

https://trekmovie.com/2020/01/08/pat...world-affairs/

Yeesh.
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^How bold and original.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:21 PM   #1217
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Some spoilers from the first 3 episodes.



So pretty much what I've figured with the androids/"synths." Still begs the question, "What made them attack?" I'm still thinking Lore
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:17 PM   #1218
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It's good that they're starting back with the precursor to the Kelvin incident. I think it's important to maintain that event, which was previously only seen in that prequel comic book, so that the prime timeline purist whiners stop saying its non-canon. (Sorry, minor personal Trekkie annoyance coming through. Such whiners are few and far between in my experience, but the one I know personally is super annoying.)
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Old 01-15-2020, 10:06 PM   #1219
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It's good that they're starting back with the precursor to the Kelvin incident. I think it's important to maintain that event, which was previously only seen in that prequel comic book
I'm pretty sure we saw the supernova in-movie and Romulus getting blown away. Didn't we?
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I'm pretty sure we saw the supernova in-movie and Romulus getting blown away. Didn't we?
Yes, but aside from Spock in the flashback there was nothing else. The whiner in question that I know keeps saying "there's no evidence to prove that Spock was from the prime timeline." Never mind Spock referring to Wrath of Khan in Into Darkness and the cast picture seen in Beyond. He just brushes them off as similarities. With Picard actually showing it, I can't imagine him being able to refute it anymore, as he's a big TNG fan first and foremost.
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Old 01-16-2020, 01:58 AM   #1221
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^I would've been okay with it being decanonized just as a Romulan fan (besides that the Prime universe is out of tone with Trek and has more changes than the destruction of the Kelvin justifies).

It was all a fluke* that the Klingons became the main baddies of the movies. Then when they finally came in with the 10th movie, they destroyed the freaking senate. Then the very next time they wipe out their whole planet!

*The baddies in #3 were supposed to be Romulans, hence the cloaked ship, but when execs wanted to promote the restyled Klingons they just retconned them into having cloaks too.
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