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Old 07-30-2019, 04:59 PM   #1401
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My personal opinion is that Miller somewhat trolls companies and fans. He gets paid A LOT of money to do some of the projects he works on, because of who he is, but he doesn't really care much at all about them. So, he does stuff like that. That's just based on some things I've heard about him and how he approached some projects.

So it's like, "You paid me 1 million dollars. Here's your art!"
I feel like that must have been Miller's mantra on DKSA. DC kept throwing money at him for a sequel and he made it the drizzling shitz on purpose to troll them and fans while amusing himself.
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Old 08-01-2019, 03:50 AM   #1402
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This should not have made it past editorial:


That might be the worst licensed depiction of Wonder Woman that I've ever seen.
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:27 AM   #1403
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I feel like that explains a lot.
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Old 08-01-2019, 05:48 PM   #1404
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Haha, yeah it does.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:11 PM   #1405
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DC Promotes MARIE JAVINS To Lead New Publishing Initiatives
BATMAN Editor JAMIE S. RICH Takes Over JUSTICE LEAGUE Titles
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:15 PM   #1406
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From the Warren Ellis newsletter:

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Old 08-06-2019, 07:38 AM   #1407
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Funny that Ellis keeps saying that he didn't write more than two issues, and yet Lee speaks of "numerous scripts".
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:25 PM   #1408
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Shazam #7 pushed back a total of THIRTEEN weeks, the eighth time this particular issue has been rescheduled.

https://www.newsarama.com/45377-shaz...eeks-each.html
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:33 PM   #1409
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What is going on with that Shazam title? What a mess. It's like they keep restarting that issue from scratch.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:43 PM   #1410
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It's actually pretty good (especially the art) when it does come out.
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Old 08-08-2019, 07:44 PM   #1411
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It's actually pretty good (especially the art) when it does come out.
I agree that the art is excellent and fits the tone of the comic. But what is happening where they need 3 more months to finish an issue on top of the time they already had? Sounds like work never even started at all beyond the covers they needed for.solicits.
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:48 PM   #1412
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Given that Doomsday Clock has also experienced severe delays I think the issue is with Johns, either he's got an unreported health issue, he's too busy with the DC Universe stuff or he's too focused on the GLC movie script to work on comics full time.

That last one was me being facetious
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Old 08-08-2019, 09:09 PM   #1413
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I snorted when I got to your GLC script comment.
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:17 PM   #1414
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How does a writer who can't meet the deadlines on one title get assigned to another title at the same time?
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:07 AM   #1415
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By selling a shit ton on the other book.

Two part interview with Didio and Lee:
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/...cc-2019-part-1
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/...cc-2019-part-2

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Didio: I agree with Jim on a lot of good things. The periodical numbers have been strong for us. Our idea to bring down the number of books, I think, is working for us. It allows us to spend more time to improve the creativity of the material, which is what we feel is important right now. The Young Adult line starting to really catch fire with the Raven book has been exciting for us. I think we've been more than pleased than what we've seen on the Black Label material so far. All those things considered, it's been going good.

Graphic novels has been a weak spot for us that we have to address, because that has been such a mainstay of our publishing schedule and publishing plan. If that's changing in any way, shape, or form, whether it's because of lack of interest or because digital is cutting into that business, we're not really sure. We have to explore that a little bit further.

Where my concern comes from is more about the overreliance on nostalgia, speculator marketing, variant covers, and a lot of things that seem to be driving numbers in sales to give the appearance of a healthy industry, but it's not built on the ongoing success of the individual titles in order to keep those numbers successful and maintained. If we're creating these artificial highs on a continual basis, if something pulls that apart, does it break the infrastructure overall, and how do we change these buying patterns in that fashion to build something that is a more healthy business going forward?

Lee: I'll add one other thing. On the digital side, I think it's been pretty flat in recent years, which is a little disheartening.

Well, download‑to‑own has been pretty flat, but the subscription side's been growing, right?

Lee: Right. A lot is moving to subscription, and that is having a downward pressure on transactional sales. But I think it's discouraging in general because everyone talks about digital being the future. If there's anything that should continue to grow year-in, year-out, it should be that channel. The fact that it's kind of plateaued and we've hit a wall speaks to a lot of different things. We need to reinvent what we're doing digitally. The subscription service that we're doing on the DC Universe platform is part of that. We just have to get better at marketing to people that know our characters, love our characters, but aren't buying comics.
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Didio: So far, it's going well. We're continuing the program into September. The books are starting to come into the direct market, too. We actually have a couple of chains that we're looking to get in there as well. We're starting to expand the program. It was great to start with Walmart as a focal point, but right now, we're trying to expand the line so that these books capture a lot of the excitement that we are seeing in the media. Anything that has a show or anything that's going on in the media right now, we're trying to build those types of books. They go out into the mass market so that somebody more casually aware of our characters finds something to read and hopefully gets exposed to our worlds.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:22 AM   #1416
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That sounds cryptically pessimistic. Forbes just did an article predicting that AT&T will have enough of the hassle of keeping the publishing end of DC open. That they will shut it down and just focus on exploiting the IPs in other media like they have
Can't say I would be surprised.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:53 PM   #1417
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A lot of people trash DiDio, but he showed there that he knows what he's talking about. When I've suggested on other boards that Disney should buy DC Entertainment, a lot of fanboys who hate Marvel have acted like I've slapped their mother's face. But it would make sense.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:46 PM   #1418
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Disney owns too much already.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:29 PM   #1419
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Disney owns too much already.
Maybe they do, but that's not the point. If Disney buying DC Entertainment would keep DC comics in print, then comics fans should want it to happen.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:51 PM   #1420
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AT&T will shut down DC in a few years, and a few years after that Disney will follow suit with Marvel. I don't think either publisher will see the end of the next decade.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:40 AM   #1421
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The comic books have become a petri dish to test new approaches and new characters. If it works, like Falcon as Cap or Aaron's Thor run with Jane Foster holding the hammer, it'll get turned into a series or billion dollar movie. If it doesn't, like Totally Awesome Hulk or the Lee Price Venom, then it will get replaced by a different approach.

Disney won't want to lose that, even if comic books aren't as profitable as they used to be.

DC doesn't have that approach. They experiment with their characters in the movies. What if Superman was an asshole who has yet to learn his morals? What if the Suicide Squad was a bunch of Hot Topic idiots? And then they try to emulate those approaches that tanked at the box office in their comic books. And then they wonder when Marvel destroys them at the movies.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:39 PM   #1422
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It's sad that as many years as they have behind them as an industry leader, that DC fails as often as they do shepherding their own IPs.
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Old 08-10-2019, 08:57 PM   #1423
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And yet even non-fans acknowledge their animated movies are much stronger. Until Spiderverse, people weren't even talking about Marvel's animation. If DC could just spread that talent around a bit . . .
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Funny that you mention DC's animated line. I was watching some YouTube top 10 list on the best DC animated movies a few nights ago. My wife commented on how much better the animated movies are than the live action ones. And this is a woman who even though she has been with a giant nerd for al.ost 30 years, is still clueless about a lot when it comes to comics.
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:38 AM   #1425
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And yet the comic books don't emulate the animated movies. If anything, Justice League Doom and Assault on Arkham infect the animated movies with the worst ideas from the comics (like Cyborg joining the Justice League or Harley on Suicide Squad).
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