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Old 07-18-2019, 10:27 PM   #1
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Default Terminator: Dark Fate

Looks like Edward Furlong is going to be in it as John Connor. Huh.

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This movie is going to be a trainwreck. Hard pass for me, especially after the last one. Not interested in the trannynator and his/her girl gang.
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^That seems to be the general view of Terminator fans, but I found Genisys worth the watch (and even worth the purchase---at a discount) and like them bringing Linda back. For all the diversity trends in Hollywood, they treat aging actresses like crap, so I'm all for remembering the 50+ ladies.
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Genesys was terrible. Really strong start, but as it went on, it became more and more of a debacle. That's not how time travel has ever worked in the franchise. And I have no idea what was more cringe inducing. The worst Sarah Connor ever, the worst John Connor ever, an old and pathetic looking Arnie or not using Matt Smith to his full potential. Bah.

Bringing back Cameron, Hamilton and Furlong is certainly sending a message. I'll watch it.
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Genesys was terrible. Really strong start, but as it went on, it became more and more of a debacle. That's not how time travel has ever worked in the franchise. And I have no idea what was more cringe inducing. The worst Sarah Connor ever, the worst John Connor ever, an old and pathetic looking Arnie or not using Matt Smith to his full potential. Bah.

Bringing back Cameron, Hamilton and Furlong is certainly sending a message. I'll watch it.
Actually, I agree with pretty much all of that and the time travel retcon annoyed me even in theater. I just tend to find a movie redeemable if it has good moments and I felt like they were there in T:G (like the observatory bit or taking a look at what aging organic bits would look like). I might not even have bought it if it wasn't for my completitionist tendencies (a tendency I have been willing to break in view of the Star Wars franchise) and aforementioned discount.
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You see, I didn't buy Genesys, even though I have all Terminator movies before.
On the other hand, I did buy the Disney Star Wars movies, and they've grown on me on repeated viewings once I realized that all of my points of criticism boiled down to "I would have done it differently".
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You see, I didn't buy Genesys, even though I have all Terminator movies before.
On the other hand, I did buy the Disney Star Wars movies, and they've grown on me on repeated viewings once I realized that all of my points of criticism boiled down to "I would have done it differently".
Understandable. Doesn't work for me, though, since my criticism is I wouldn't have done it at all because the story was finished in 1983. I could apply that to Terminator, but T2 was a good and reasonable follow-up, so it became a franchise in my mind (whereas Star Wars is a trilogy to me).
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Genesys was terrible. Really strong start, but as it went on, it became more and more of a debacle. That's not how time travel has ever worked in the franchise. And I have no idea what was more cringe inducing. The worst Sarah Connor ever, the worst John Connor ever, an old and pathetic looking Arnie or not using Matt Smith to his full potential. Bah.

Bringing back Cameron, Hamilton and Furlong is certainly sending a message. I'll watch it.
You forgot "appallingly bad Kyle Reese."
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I'm sure they will kill off Furlong after he makes a brief cameo to hand over the baton of savior of mankind tho that Disney starlet looking kid in the movie. He's not in any of the promo material so far so I fully expect him to be cannon fodder early on in the film.
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