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View Poll Results: Should Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz be cast in a Bat title?
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Old 04-12-2017, 09:15 AM   #1
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Default Baz and Cruz in Gotham City

Would you like to see a rebooted Baz and Cruz recast in roles in a Batverse title?

I know that some of you would prefer to see their heads on a pole, but please be realistic about this. They're not going away, and given that reality, would you rather see them there than in Green Lantern?

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Old 04-12-2017, 12:32 PM   #2
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Absolutely, since they won't kill them anytime soon. I'd rather they just downplay their roles, bring them back to the main corps for more training, and let Hal or Guy patrol the Earth sector again. Or strip their rings somehow.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:34 PM   #3
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Simon should be in a new version of The Outsiders, since he is Batman's new goon GL.

Jessica can stay in some version of the Justice League, she doesn't need to be in Gotham, but if getting her away from that is idea, any Earth team will do.

I'd prefer they weren't always a duo.
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Old 04-12-2017, 04:38 PM   #4
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So you guys should vote Yes.
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:45 PM   #5
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I think maybe Hawkman should be in the Bat books too. I think he might be a good fit there.
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Old 04-14-2017, 05:52 PM   #6
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Every concept can't be saved by putting them in a Bat book. Hawkman doesn't need to be put in Gotham. He's got Midway and St. Roch which are both infinitely cooler.

IDK why a Batman rogue couldn't operate in another city for awhile. Batman and Superman have enough enemies that a few could play the field a little more. I've always liked seeing Parasite show up in other places, Livewire, and Bane is cool when he's not tied to Batman or Gotham [his use in the YJ cartoon for example, or time in the Secret 6], and you'd think the Scarecrow or another insane doctor would assume a new alias and try to start over in another city by now.

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Old 09-28-2017, 03:53 PM   #7
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I think maybe Hawkman should be in the Bat books too. I think he might be a good fit there.
Nah I really want Hawkman to have his own book again...might happen after the "metal" event. It has his fingerprints all over it. I really like Hawkman on his own. I think there is a lot of potential for that character to be cool.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:26 PM   #8
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Baz and Cruz are here to stay. Not because the market wants them, but because diversity. That being the case, the Bat books are the logical place for them.

I don't think Hawkman will get another solo title. If Geoff couldn't sell one, DC probably won't let anyone else try.
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If they aren't in a GL title, it makes no difference to me where they go.

I've no opinion on whether a Bat book would be a particularly good place for them. I don't see any reason why they should go to a Bat book in particular, but then again I don't see any reason why not, if they aren't going to be in GL.

I'm probably not going to be reading about them no matter where they end up if it isn't a GL book, so it matters little to me.
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Old 09-28-2017, 09:23 PM   #10
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Making them regulars in a Batman book is way out of left field. I don't see how it's the logical choice. They are Green Lantern characters. I'm not saying it couldn't be done and work, but it's like ... why? Seems very random to me. It would almost be like making Duke Thomas a regular character in Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps.
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:34 PM   #11
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Maybe you could use them in a Green lantern comic if they weren't Green Lanterns. But where, and in what capacity? Meanwhile, there are a zillion Bat books. There's room for them over there.

The whole problem DC has created for itself in Green Lantern is that there just isn't room for all this stuff. It was bad enough to inject Kyle into it, but then Geoff got completely out of hand with wanting to add new characters.
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I certainly agree that there isn't enough room for all this stuff, but I don't believe randomly putting the characters in Batman comics is a good idea.
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Baz and Cruz are here to stay. Not because the market wants them, but because diversity.
Thats why we need to embrace Hal Jordan jewish and Kyle Rayner latino side like Tom King has done in probably the best GL books in recent memory, Darkseid War Green Lantern oneshot and Omega Men. For the times they are a-changin and the demographic is shifting et cetera.

DC traded the diversity problem with a crowded problem. The perfect solution is Simon sister Sira Baz replacing both Jessica and Simon as the female GL.


Just imagine her GL design.

It would now make sense using that hijab/mask Simon seems to be wearing even though he is male..

Making Baz male whas probably the biggest mistake Johns has made in his carer. And he has a big list of mistakes. Just look at the awesome recepcion Ms Marvel/Kamala Kahn had compared to Simon.


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It was bad enough to inject Kyle into it, but then Geoff got completely out of hand with wanting to add new characters.
I think Kyle has proven time and time again he is part of the Green Lantern mythos, one of the 3 pillars of GL along with John and Hal. So after saying that I would be willing to sacrifice Alan Scott, Jade and even Guy (sorry) just to get rid of Simon and Jessica. Or replacing them with Sira Baz.
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I don't think Hawkman will get another solo title. If Geoff couldn't sell one, DC probably won't let anyone else try.
I really liked his run on the comic. I've got the first trade, waiting for volume 2. It seems like Snyder is pitching a come back at least with DN: Metal, will see if they decide to turn it into a full blown series. If they do I would love to see it become the most violent super hero comic in DC's lineup.
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Old 10-01-2017, 04:42 PM   #15
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Baz and Cruz exist because DC wants to indulge in virtue signaling. This has nothing to do with their mission, which is selling comics. It backfired on Marvel, and we all know the definition of insanity, don't we?

If they HAVE do do this, which is debatable, they can at least use those characters in comics that have room for them.
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I think maybe Hawkman should be in the Bat books too. I think he might be a good fit there.
Okay, now you are just f*cking with us.
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"Batman comics sell. DC should just do the obvious Astro City approach and base ALL their comics in Gotham."

... said no fan ever.

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I picture Oprah yelling, "And YOU'RE in the Bat Family! And YOU'RE in the Bat Family! And YOU'RE in the Bat Family! And YOU'RE in the Bat Family!"
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Old 10-02-2017, 11:12 AM   #19
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I ask everyone. Where would you put Baz, Cruz and Hawkman, given that Baz and Cruz are not going away, and that Hawkman isn't getting a solo title?

The only liked alternative is that Baz and Cruz will stay as Green Lanterns, and Hawkman won't get used. That shouldn't be satisfactory to anyone.

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Old 10-02-2017, 01:35 PM   #20
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Okay, now you are just f*cking with us.
Ha yeah, why not have him back in the JLA or JSA? I would really like to see Hawkman return I've been gobbling up the back issues lately.
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