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Old 10-26-2010, 09:40 PM   #101
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I make it my mission to prove you wrong now Mr. Castle
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No Emo Superman for us!

(on the record Im really looking forward to this book)
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:41 PM   #103
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I thought I started it with my gif? Oh, well.

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I trump you Bruce.

So how many pages will this book be?
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:44 PM   #105
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Nothing trumps twins!
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:46 PM   #106
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I trump you Bruce.

So how many pages will this book be?
136 pages
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:46 PM   #107
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True- but then again...



I'M a twin... so I use your own logic against you. It's like this...



Schooled.
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Thanks IG!
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:47 PM   #109
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The logic involves female twins. Don't you watch beer commercials?

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Accept it. You got schooled.
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Never! I wanna see how many animated gifs you can find.
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This is what Willpower Prevails did when he tried to call you out.

And if you look closely you'll see Bruce!
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:16 PM   #113
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I've been looking forward to this book for some time. Superman has been a dull character to me for quite a while, and now adding in an edge... well, it's captivating.
I, for one, am anticipating this story.
I agree with you about how Superman was a dull character. I've always liked Batman and co. way more than I've ever liked Superman. But this book seems to give me hope that maybe I can finally like Superman. Even if it is in a different universe than the original one. I'm sold.



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I'm sure Superman will have that optimism in this book eventually But this is him at the very start. This is his garden of gethsemane moment, Jesus who in the bible is a optimistic compassionate character and he doubted himself at the garden of gethsemane before the ordeal he was about to undergo, so if Jesus can have a sense of doubt why not Superman. Now if continues to "doubt" himself in the second installment, then we have a problem
I totally agree with you on this. If anyone says that they do everything with confidence the first time and never doubt themselves is a flat out liar. But after doing things so many times you start to gain the confidence needed to where self doubt doesn't exist to you anymore. And so if, in this story or vol. 1, is full of him doubting himself but towards the end he starts to believe in himself great that's what he's needed all along. He's too damn cocky. Its irritating.
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Thanks for getting back on topic, Will.

By the way, here's a review by someone who has actually read the book for a change:

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About halfway through this original graphic novel, I was bored. J. Michael Straczynski wasn't writing a story so much as he was engaged in a writing exercise to rearrange familiar plot points into the same old story. This time, Pa Kent is back to being dead, but Clark Kent has still just moved to Metropolis, looking to make his mark, caught between two worlds, between honor and duty. He's an alien in a world that's not his home. His parents are wise beyond imagining, the very epitome of home spun advice to set any man on the right path. There was a ship that crashed, a boy that became a man with super powers, and everything else you'd expect from Yet Another Superman Origin Story. Except, this time, Clark Kent was a little lankier and trendier looking.

The good news is that the main plot for the story kicks in somewhere past the halfway point, with a new alien race set to invade earth and tear it apart unless Superman shows himself. It's a no win situation for Clark, and one which his entire future may hinge on. And that, thankfully, is when things start going better for the book. For starters, there's a downright Joss Whedonesque moment in this script delivered with typical Straczynski humor. No, I don't think Straczynski was aping Whedon's work. Straczynski's always had a strong sense of humor in his science-fiction writings, but most comic geeks today are more familiar with "Firefly" than "Babylon 5." At the end of the week, after this book has been out for a few days, I'm sure I could find an example somewhere of someone saying Straczynski ripped off Whedon somehow. Not so. If you want to look for the moment, I'll give you a hint: It's Straczynski's use of a common supervillain trope to good plot effect that's so impressive. He's also found a new angle on Krypton's death, while presenting a grave peril to the earth that's believable and scary, particularly when viewed from Kent's angle.

On the whole, it's a nice start. It's weighed down by the need to re-spin the origin tale and pick and choose the moments the author wishes to emphasize: Is this an illegal immigration story? Gay teenagers? A racism allegory? It's to Straczysnki's credit that he never hammers one particular angle home, instead touching on a few and letting the reader choose. The good news is that when the plot kicks in, it's an entertaining and nail-biting piece of work. Sure, there are some background bits that might seem like modern clichés - the military experimenting on the original Kryptonian craft, for example - but a slight modernization of the tale isn't unwarranted.

This is the book that they need to get out of the way to start getting to the good stuff, I think. Like most superhero movies, it gets too bogged down on the origin story, hiding what could be its strongest assets for later editions, should the series be so lucky.

The bigger problem for me is the art of Shane Davis. It bores me. The coloring from Barbara Ciardo saves it by providing an interesting palette and great choices of texture. It's subdued, very earthy, but also gritty. The problem is that the skeleton underneath it - the art - does not work for me at all. It almost looks phototraced, but without the photos behind them. It's weird, like Steve McNiven's work without the life. People walk around the book stiff and bored, even when striking dramatic poses at key moments. Hands jut out of long sleeves looking not terribly attached to much of anything at all. Those hands on the book's cover are positively Liefeldian.

Images of Superman in costume are horribly uncomfortable. It looks like the photorealistic head is pasted onto a more idealized superhuman figure. It's tough to find a model to shoot photoreference of who looks like Superman, let's face it. It comes back to good old fashioned cartooning for the body in a style that tries to stay as similar to that which is used in the phototracing. It's the worst of both worlds. When Tom Welling finally dons the cape for "Smallville," this is almost how I picture it looking - like a familiar face with a really garish costume on his body.

And then, Jimmy Olsen is using the kit lens with his Canon camera, which bothers me for some reason. From a story point of view, it might make sense: The Daily Planet has seen better days, the newsprint won't show high detail anyway, so why spend money on buying a better lens? Olsen's shots look to be mostly mid- to wide angle, so the lens is capable of taking most of them. Since he was shooting in broad day light, his exposures probably worked out fine. For some reason, though, I'd like to think the Daily Planet at one point in its life invested in better glass, and that the lenses lasted long enough for Jimmy Olsen to still be using them.

Next, I'll be asking William Shatner about the combination lock on Captain Kirk's locked in that one episode of the original "Star Trek." I know, I know.

In any case, the packaging on the book is great, with the image printed directly on the cover, so no dustjacket is required. For $20, you get good paperstock, a book that opens and stays open easily without breaking the spine and strong production values. I have my qualms with the book - the art and the first half of the story - but I'm likely not the intended audience for it, either. I think it shows promise for the new line, but I really hope a second volume starts to pay off on it.
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Most reviews I've seen thus far say the art is hit and miss... weird, Davis usually rocks.
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Yea usually Davis is right on the money. His art is some of the best new art out now. In my opinion.
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I always enjoy his art. So reports his art is hit or miss is against the norm. I've only seen a few pages, but when I pick it up tonight we shall see.
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I always enjoy his art. So reports his art is hit or miss is against the norm. I've only seen a few pages, but when I pick it up tonight we shall see.
Totally agree with you. All the pages I've seen have been pretty damn good though. So I'm not sure where they are getting the whole hit or miss from. But as you said we shall see later tonight.
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It was a hit on the art side of the house- plain and simple.
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Well I know that I had a hard time trying to get my copy of it. I had to buy it from Barnes & Noble all the local comic shops with in a 100 mile radius were sold out with the exception of one and they wanted 30 bucks for it because it was sold out every where else and it was a first print. They are already doing a second print for the book. So it can't be that bad.
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