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Old 07-12-2011, 11:45 PM   #26
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Wow, that's two people that have First Class in their top 3. I thought it was borderline average at best. Why do people like it so much? Their were a ton of goofs in the movie too.
The two main characters, Charles Xavier and Erik Lensherr were hits of the film, and their metaphors were very faithful to the source material. Meaning, Charles believes mutants and humans can coexist, while Erik does not. Moreover, the movie shows the relationship and bond between Charles and Erik, especially during the scene where Erik tries to move the sattlelite dish. The film also provided a wonderful background to Erik and his thought process. Thus making him more than a cookie-cutter bad guy that gets corrupted or is just evil for the sake of being evil. There's real depth in the characters. Additionally, there are some poetic moments in the film like when Erik returns the nickel back to Shaw. That was cool. Moreover, Erik the Nazi hunter was pretty back ass.

The pace of film is well done, as it allows for character developments and builds towards the climatic ending.

The script also allows the audience to ponder the moral issues posed by Erik, which is, in light of the Nazi holocaust, should mutants wipe out normal humans to ensure the safety of their species and prevent a mutant holocuast? The script also is faithful with the source material in one of the major themes, and that's being able to be who you are without fear or repercussions. A theme constant the X-Men comic book. Mystic was symbolic of this theme.

In short, the film's themes are in sync with the source material, there are wonderful acting performances and great chemistry between the characters, and the film is engrained with excellent symbolism and metaphors.
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I agree this is why I really enjoyed the film!
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:50 PM   #28
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I kept bumping Superman down, until he wasn't on the list. I saw that movie far too late to appreciate it. So for me, the Superman movies are all forgettable. They have moments of course but most of these movies I enjoyed a great deal.
I'm old enough to remember when Superman hit the silver screen. It was magical. I mean, at the time it didn't look cheesy. I believe Superman was flying. And the theme song is so unforgettable. To me, Donner hit every right note to make Superman translate from the comic book to film. Moreover, Lois Lane had some sas and moxie, unlike in Superman Returns.

Superman is definitely number one on my list mostly because of nostaglic reasons.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:52 PM   #29
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Wait the theme song for the Superman movies are forgettable. Nostalgia aside, it's absolutely amazing!
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:53 PM   #30
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Wait the theme song for the Superman movies are forgettable. Nostalgia aside, it's absolutely amazing!
My bad. I edited my post to say "unforgettable."


EDIT: Now that I think of it, I wonder what the fanboy reaction would have been if Donner's Superman was released today, especially the part where Superman flys around the earth in the opposite direction of the rotations to make time for in reverse. I'm sure that would be up for fanboy fodder.
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:01 AM   #31
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First Class only had a couple of bad bits for me. Havok did fuck all. He didn't need to be there also (Darwin's death was retarded. He spent 10 minutes showing us he couldn't die...and then he dies). There was one line that was terrible "don't kill us, we're normal. Kill the freaks but not us." made no sense at all. Really stuck out since no other line was like that. Shame but it was a tiny flaw that stuck out. Other than that it rawked.
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:10 AM   #32
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First Class only had a couple of bad bits for me. Havok did fuck all. He didn't need to be there also (Darwin's death was retarded. He spent 10 minutes showing us he couldn't die...and then he dies). There was one line that was terrible "don't kill us, we're normal. Kill the freaks but not us." made no sense at all. Really stuck out since no other line was like that. Shame but it was a tiny flaw that stuck out. Other than that it rawked.
I don't remember that "we're normal" line. I'll have to catch that when it comes to blu ray. As far as Darwin's death... well, it was just a plot device to demonstrate the danger of Shaw and his crew.

One of the most riveting scenes in the film was when Erik was in Argentina and has a drink in the bar. That scene was very well paced and the action was jaw dropping. If Mags would have stayed on Charles side, he could have been the prequels "Wolverine."
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:11 AM   #33
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I'll separate the heroes and limit it to the live action features I enjoyed out of franchises:

Batman Begins > Batman '89 > The Dark Knight > Batman '66 > Batman Returns

Superman > Superman II > Superman Returns

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles > Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze

Conan the Barbarian > Conan the Destroyer

Iron Man > Iron Man 2

Constantine

Blade > Blade II

Green Lantern

The Crow

Thor

X2 > X-Men
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:14 AM   #34
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You could argue that logic with any movie!
That's my story and I'm stickin' with it!
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Old 07-13-2011, 12:41 AM   #35
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OK Here is my list. I stuck with top 25. GL made it in my Top Ten!

1. Superman: The Movie
2. The Dark Knight
3. Iron Man
4. Batman Begins
5. Spider-Man
6. Batman ‘89
7. Watchmen
8. Kick Ass
9. The Rocketeer
10. Green Lantern
11. Iron Man 2
12. Superman II
13. Spider-Man 2
14. From Hell
15. Superman Returns
16. 300
17. Batman 2 Returns
18. Hellboy
19. Thor
20. X-Men
21. X-Men: First Class
22. Constantine
23. V For Vendetta
24. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
25. The Incredible Hulk
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:11 AM   #36
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1. green lantern emerald knights

2. xmen the movie

3. ironman

4. blade


5. jla new frontier

6 thor

7. batman begins

8. the dark knight

9. green lantern first flight

10. spawn the animated movie
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:52 PM   #37
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....some days I feel like the only person in the World who loves this movie . . . .



#1 The Dark Knight
#2 Green Lantern
#3 Iron Man
#4 Iron Man 2
#5 Batman (1989)
#6 Spider-Man 2
#7 Batman Forever
#8 Batman Returns
#9 Batman Begins
#10 Watchmen
#11 Kick Ass
#12 Captain America: the First Avenger
#13 Green Hornet
#14 Spider-Man
#15 X-Men: First Class
#16 Thor

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Old 07-15-2011, 08:40 AM   #38
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I've not seen the movie yet... but since Watchmen, IronMan 2, Kick Ass, Batman Begins and DareDevil are amongst my favourite Comicbook movies and you seem to put GL on par with them... I think I'll have a chance to love it
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:42 AM   #39
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The two main characters, Charles Xavier and Erik Lensherr were hits of the film, and their metaphors were very faithful to the source material.
and all they had to do was copy the first three films for the mainstream audience to lap it up.

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Moreover, the movie shows the relationship and bond between Charles and Erik, especially during the scene where Erik tries to move the sattlelite dish.
Oh please, it was cookie cutter movie bonding. There was nothing to truly establish any kind of moving/emotional friendship. If the first thee movies never existed or if you had never read any of the comics, you'd watch those scenes wondering why the hell these two were even bothering with each other.


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The film also provided a wonderful background to Erik and his thought process. Thus making him more than a cookie-cutter bad guy that gets corrupted or is just evil for the sake of being evil.
Oh the background that totally and completely changed his history? Just when exactly did Shaw have anything to do with the Holocaust again?

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There's real depth in the characters.
One of the most laughable things I have ever read about "First Class." The only thing "deep" about the movie was the exact depth any number of the execs were in January Jones to convince them to cast her in the flick.

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Additionally, there are some poetic moments in the film like when Erik returns the nickel back to Shaw. That was cool. Moreover, Erik the Nazi hunter was pretty back ass.
yeah I liked the nazi hunting bits. We can agree on that.

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The pace of film is well done, as it allows for character developments and builds towards the climatic ending.
I'm beginning to think we must have seen different versions of the movie.

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The script also allows the audience to ponder the moral issues posed by Erik, which is, in light of the Nazi holocaust, should mutants wipe out normal humans to ensure the safety of their species and prevent a mutant holocuast?
Ground already covered in the first films.


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The script also is faithful with the source material in one of the major themes, and that's being able to be who you are without fear or repercussions. A theme constant the X-Men comic book. Mystic was symbolic of this theme.

Well assuming you can get past how the producers (again) totally said "fuck it" and rewrote her history, I'm glad you can say it was faithful to ONE of the major themes because it was fuck all faithful to anything else.

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In short, the film's themes are in sync with the source material, there are wonderful acting performances and great chemistry between the characters, and the film is engrained with excellent symbolism and metaphors.
The only symbolism I can think of is one of me buying a ticket to seeing this movie and one of me getting fucked up the ass.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:52 AM   #40
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I was pleasantly surprised about X men First Class I didnt expect to like it but James McAvoy held that movie together as Xavier.I did question some of the characters names like Angel.I thought Angel was supposed angel wings not fly wings.I would have called her Firefly since she could spit acid.Darwin was the worst hero name ever.Banshee is a girls name.But besides that minor stuff is was a good film and Kevin Bacon did his thing as the villian.It was refreshing to see a good movie with very few A list movie actors.
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:01 PM   #41
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It's in my top 3 I'd have to say. V for Vendetta is my top one though (It's tied for my favorite movie of all time.)
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I was pleasantly surprised about X men First Class I didnt expect to like it but James McAvoy held that movie together as Xavier.I did question some of the characters names like Angel.I thought Angel was supposed angel wings not fly wings.I would have called her Firefly since she could spit acid.Darwin was the worst hero name ever.Banshee is a girls name.But besides that minor stuff is was a good film and Kevin Bacon did his thing as the villian.It was refreshing to see a good movie with very few A list movie actors.
Yeah, I thought maybe they would have called her Pixie or something besides Angel. And I agree about the name Darwin.

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It's in my top 3 I'd have to say. V for Vendetta is my top one though (It's tied for my favorite movie of all time.)
V for Vendetta was pretty good. Seeing that movie made me think of a potential for The Professional II featuring Natalie Portman as a "Cleaner" taking over for Leon.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:12 PM   #43
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The Game Changers for me were 89 Batman, And the First Ninja Turtles. I Saw those movies so many times in the Theater and it was always crowded. I remember having to sit in the isle as a kid once for Turtles. Batmania and the Turtle Mania. I will never forget how big those two things were. I have yet to see a comic movie influnce the mass media loike it did with those 2.

Movies I really enjoy.
As far as my personal favorites and not what I consider the best of Cinema.
Conan
Iron man
Green Lantern
Thor
Punisher Dolph
The Phantom
The Shadow
The Rocketeer
Dick Tracey
Superman I & II
Batman mask of the Phantasam
Buck Rogers 30's serial
Judge Dredd
Dare Devil
Ghost Rider
X-men
Fantastic Four
Spider Man
Hulk
That is not a piticular order. Just movie I like

Movies that I can't sit through again.

The Crow all of them
The Nolan Batman's.
Watchmen
X2+X3 & Wolverine Origins
V for vendetta
Norton Hulk. Seriously why do people like that guy so much?
Smallsville.
Superman 3 & 4

It is wiered because people on the Net seem to like the ones I hate and love the ones I seem to think suck. But then when I talk to a general public movie fan we are usually on the soma page. With exceptions of course. No one likes that first Hulk.lol

I generally like Comic movies. It has to be pretty bad for me hate on it.
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1. green lantern emerald knights

2. xmen the movie

3. ironman

4. blade


5. jla new frontier

6 thor

7. batman begins

8. the dark knight

9. green lantern first flight

10. spawn the animated movie

Um you didn't answer the question?
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Mine is similar to Daves:


The Dark Knight
Iron Man (Perfect movie)
Kick-Ass (man I must have watched this one a 100 times already!)
Superman
Spider-Man (perfect movie)
Superman II
Watchmen
Batman
Batman Begins
Green Lantern (only cuz it is Green Lantern, still a poor, dull movie)
Green Hornet was ok
Daredevil
Thor
300
X-Men
The Rocketeer (one of my all-time favs! a PERFECT MOVIE, very low rated)
Judge Dredd
Scott Pilgrim vs The World
Swampthing
(and I am sure the new Captain America will be on this list soon)

I tried to like the Punisher movies, but they missed everytime. Ghost rider gets honorable mention for the effects, but Cage ruined it. (funny cuz I loved him in Kick-Ass) I am sure I missed some, so will add as I go.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:02 PM   #46
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Top 10:
1. The Dark Knight
2. Iron Man
3. Green Lantern
4. The Incredible Hulk
5. X2
6. Spider-Man 2
7. Batman Begins
8. X-Men: First Class
9. Thor
10. Kick-Ass

*And I know when I see Captain America, it will have a spot in my top 10.
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Mine is similar to Daves:


The Dark Knight
Iron Man (Perfect movie)
Kick-Ass (man I must have watched this one a 100 times already!)
Superman
Spider-Man (perfect movie)
Superman II
Watchmen
Batman
Batman Begins
Green Lantern (only cuz it is Green Lantern, still a poor, dull movie)
Green Hornet was ok
Daredevil
Thor
300
X-Men
The Rocketeer (one of my all-time favs! a PERFECT MOVIE, very low rated)
Judge Dredd
Scott Pilgrim vs The World
Swampthing
(and I am sure the new Captain America will be on this list soon)

I tried to like the Punisher movies, but they missed everytime. Ghost rider gets honorable mention for the effects, but Cage ruined it. (funny cuz I loved him in Kick-Ass) I am sure I missed some, so will add as I go.
I agree with you mostly on Punisher. I loved the Dolph one though because I felt that that was perfect casting. Dolph was born to play a gun totaing tough guy. The only thing that really botherd me was the lack of the symbol on his shirt. It is by no means a deep movie,but it has that 80's action movie feel that I think Punisher needs. In my humble opinion I think it is worth the 5 dollars it takes to rescue it from the bargan bin.
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Old 07-17-2011, 12:39 PM   #48
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well..here goes

The Dark Knight
Superman: The Movie
Green Lantern
Iron Man
Spiderman 2
Batman (1989)
Batman Begins
X2: X-Men United
Thor
Blade II

Animated are...

Green Lantern: Emerald Knights
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern: First Flight
Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths
Superman / Shazam: The Return of Black Adam (DC Showcase Animated Original Shorts)
Justice League: The New Frontier
Batman: Gotham Knight
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse

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Old 07-17-2011, 02:55 PM   #49
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It's close to the bottom for me.
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I can respect people who did not like it. However I hate those people who bash the living hell outta something then buy it when it comes on DVD. Or talk about how the Movie Ruined thier life then go see the sequal.
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