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Old 04-08-2013, 11:35 PM   #1
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Do you prefer Kyle Rayner as a White Lantern to a Green Lantern? Vote in the new Deadpoll!

I do, I think he looks cool as a WL, and he's finally "special" again.
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no, while yes i like him as a WL

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i'd prefer him as the "Super"-Lantern

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no, while yes i like him as a WL...i'd prefer him as the "Super"-Lantern
Yeah, but you have to admit that the new WL Kyle is a Super Lantern (he's using all the other powers). Unless you're just referring to the outfit.
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I wish it was only temporary. That Kyle would stay a GL, but at times he could manifest hope, greed, love, etc. and even to the fullest extent of being a White Lantern. But that the effect would only be for a few minutes, and Kyle's ring would not turn into a White Lantern power ring, but stay a GL ring with "extras".
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That Kyle..HE'S SO FULL OF EMOTION!!
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i'd prefer him as the "Super"-Lantern

Super Lantern was cool too. However, white lantern is more like Kyle.

I'd rather have him as one of those instead of a GL though because as a GL, he had a boring costume was wasn't doing much.
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Yeah, but you have to admit that the new WL Kyle is a Super Lantern (he's using all the other powers). Unless you're just referring to the outfit.
what can i say, i like the look of "Super"-Lantern Kyle more then the look of WL Kyle
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what can i say, i like the look of "Super"-Lantern Kyle more then the look of WL Kyle
I concur and I feel dirty.
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I don't know, since all I've seen are pictures. I'd rather him be white than say... blue, red, etc...

I'd much rather he be Ion though.

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what can i say, i like the look of "Super"-Lantern Kyle more then the look of WL Kyle
And that's completely legit (after all everyone has their favorite Kyle GL suit). I was just pointing out that his powers more recently were pretty close to a full spectrum warrior so to speak.
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And that's completely legit (after all everyone has their favorite Kyle GL suit). I was just pointing out that his powers more recently were pretty close to a full spectrum warrior so to speak.
as of right now no not really, we don't know what a WL can and can't do (Sin got he's @$$ handed to him 3 minutes into it, the WL Corp, as i call'em, just brought BH back to life, ect., ect., ect.) so far all Kyle's been able to do is make a member of the GoftheU run away
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Deadman brought a bird back to life. Sinestro was cut completely in half then healed [then again he had the white life entity], and the whites were basically the only thing that could defeat somebody as powerful as Nekron. Add to that their constructs hurt the Anti-Monitor, and could out power both green and yellow constructs and I'd say a WL is pretty damn powerful.

But again, Ion was cool with me. He was still a GL just a bit more of a power player.

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Deadman brought a bird back to life. Sinestro was cut completely in half then healed [then again he had the white life entity], and the whites were basically the only thing that could defeat somebody as powerful as Nekron. Add to that their constructs hurt the Anti-Monitor, and could out power both green and yellow constructs and I'd say a WL is pretty damn powerful.

But again, Ion was cool with me. He was still a GL just a bit more of a power player.

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Kyle hasn't shown anywhere near the ability Sinetro had as a White Lantern. From what I've seen, he might be a little more powerful than a Guardian.
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Kyle as anything other than a Green Lantern is a horrid idea.
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At least they haven't gone and done something completely out of left field like say... turn him into the Spectre.

In a perfect world, DC would put half the talent they waste on a dozen Batman books and throw a little bit more effort into making the expanded GLU more worth while. Geoff made the idea of a Sinestro Corps such a great concept and foil to the GLC then bastardized it half a dozen times and now here we are. Instead of trying something more character driven or new and different *cough*a Hal/Kyle Earth based title*cough* TPTB would rather retread familiar ground and retell how sorry John is over Xanshi, how Sinestro isn't as evil as he seems, and how badass Guy is as a Red Lantern....

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Don't remind me. My GOD that was awful.
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It really wasn't. Reread it sometime.
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No. I read it once. It was fucking terrible. I'll never reread those issues. What a stupid idea; right up there with teenage Tony Stark.
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And therein lies the problem: you thought the idea was stupid. Which has nothing at all to do with actual story flow, dialogue, plotting, exposition...all of the things which actually determine whether it's a good story. By that logic, anyone can claim any comic is awful...just because they don't like the idea. There's no real foundation to support the opinion, ya know?
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No, I didn't just hate the idea of Hal as the Spectre, I hated the execution of it as well. In addition to GL and Hal being my all time favorite hero, the Spectre is about my 5th all time favorite, behind only GL, Flash, Green Arrow, and Swamp Thing. And after coming off the amazing Ostrander/Mandrake Spectre series, that run of the character was a huge misfire.

First off, hiring JM DeMatteis to write the book was a mistake. He apparently loves stretching his writing muscles on those types of stories, but they aren't what the Spectre is about. Taking him from the wrath of God and changing him to the spirit of redemption didn't work. The Spectre is about old school, eye for an eye vengeance. Hal is about the last person who should have gotten the job. And don't tell me that is what made it interesting because it isn't and it didn't. It made it a trainwreck. The cast didn't work; Abin's ghost, a neice that didn't exist, it all pissed on established continuity. Halfway through the series they hired Breyfogle and tried to tie the book into the GL mythos more, and that didn't work either. The stories had this air of meandering around and self masturbatory exploration of the soul. JMD seemed to be enjoying himself to be sure, but I don't know why.

I think forgetting Hal's tenure as the Spectre, or at least never MENTIONING it again in the comics was the right thing to do. Every big character has a time period that everybody involved should be ashamed of, and this is one of GL's and the Spectre's.

Oddly enough, I had a letter printed in that run's letter column. They took the parts where I complemented the art...and cut out everything else. I'm sure they thought it was funny to do that (I might too in their shoes), but at least I know that meant they actually read what I had to say.

As for Kyle, I don't want to see him as Ion, a white lantern, pink lantern, or a pretty pony. The guy was created to be a Green Lantern, and like Hal, Guy, and John, he needs to STAY one. He's part of the club now.
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