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Old 04-03-2010, 04:59 AM   #1
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Ok OK...I know alot of people were fighting for Kyle to be a Blue Lantern but he has been host to both Ion and Paralax and I think he be a good option...hear me out:
-Kyle is always a bit of a loner, thats what made him so great. he was different and learned on his own as the last GreenLantern. as the one and only White Lantern we could get that back while we go over what the white light is.
-He feels a broader range of emotions than Hal or John..Fear, Will, Love, Compasion, Rage...Hes more rounded for that story.
-Hes an Artist..Hes born to create...White light..Create...White Light Create..lol
-He could finnaly have a Good Uniform! lol
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:05 AM   #2
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He could bring back Alex.

So long as the crab-mask didn't turn white as well and it was something simple like Sinestro's I might buy it. But I think Blue just made more sense. Really, he can project light still and bring people back from the dead, who is HE to decide shit like that? I don't think he'd take the job unless he had to bring people back to keep Nekron locked away or something....

Could be interesting, but if it was ever done I'm sure the execution wouldn't be as grand.

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Old 04-03-2010, 06:25 AM   #3
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He is certified to do it. He has died. Idk what to think about this.
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I think Kyle is more suited to be a Blue Lantern, just think his personality is more geared towards hope
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See this is just getting silly....
I fully understand your points. They're perfectly logical. My problem lies with the fact that these points are what make Kyle a good Green Lantern. The creation of the White Lantern Corps has seemingly depowered all the other corps. Geoff Johns has just created a more powerful corps, to fight the other powerful corps he created to keep the original Green Corps and their newly acquired/equally powered cronies busy.

Why does it seem that being a Green Lantern no longer suffices?
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I think what it is mainly, is the fact Kyle was always more than an average GL from his first appearance. Then they made him Ion and then took it away to continue the whole emotional entity BS. But to further put salt in the wound Hal gets to wield damn near every ring wether it was a good piece of the overall story or not. Guy makes a better Red than Hal ever thought about being. Kyle in my opionion would have made a better Blue or Black [as long as he returned to the land of the living]. But it's been all about Hal now for YEARS while the other Earth Lanterns take the backseat.

Kyle would make a good White or Blue. I think TPTB just don't want anybody even coming close to outshining the great Hal Jordan. They brought back Hal and Barry, and in a few years if they don't push Kyle or Wally or somebody else more new characters will be created to flood the franchises and put our other favorites even more in the background.

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i think kyles gonna get a blue ring
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Kyle should have been kept as Ion.
The story had so much potential.
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I think what it is mainly, is the fact Kyle was always more than an average GL from his first appearance. Then they made him Ion and then took it away to continue the whole emotional entity BS. But to further put salt in the wound Hal gets to wield damn near every ring wether it was a good piece of the overall story or not. Guy makes a better Red than Hal ever thought about being. Kyle in my opionion would have made a better Blue or Black [as long as he returned to the land of the living]. But it's been all about Hal now for YEARS while the other Earth Lanterns take the backseat.

Kyle would make a good White or Blue. I think TPTB just don't want anybody even coming close to outshining the great Hal Jordan. They brought back Hal and Barry, and in a few years if they don't push Kyle or Wally or somebody else more new characters will be created to flood the franchises and put our other favorites even more in the background.

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I'm sorry that is just flawed logic in my opinion. It is just your need that Kyle has to be different or stand out constantly. Kyle was the only GL based on circumstance. He had more of a burden to carry than any other GL because of it, but as far as his talent as GL goes, Kyle was probably below average when he first started, because he had no training and was not chosen because of his willpower & ability to overcome great fear. It took him time to grow into the lantern he is now. Guy was a good red because it would seem anger is more part of his make-up and he was used to using it to supplement his will all along.
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How's it flawed logic exactly?

Up until the end of Sinestro Corps Kyle was in fact more than the average Lantern. Even when he was sporting the Lee/Ion symbol it was retconned he probably had Ion already growing inside him [it's never been clearly resolved how long Ion was there, but the symbol was and the power was there before he gave the most of it back].

He had no 24 hour limit or yellow weakness. Then he became Ion 1.0. Then he upgraded his ring and sported what's now the Ion symbol. Then he became Ion 2.0. Then Parallax 2.0.

He's always been more than the average Lantern but now the show is all about Hal. I'm still hoping Kyle just becomes Ion again. He deserves more than just being background furniture in a team title.

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See this is just getting silly....
I fully understand your points. They're perfectly logical. My problem lies with the fact that these points are what make Kyle a good Green Lantern. The creation of the White Lantern Corps has seemingly depowered all the other corps. Geoff Johns has just created a more powerful corps, to fight the other powerful corps he created to keep the original Green Corps and their newly acquired/equally powered cronies busy.

Why does it seem that being a Green Lantern no longer suffices?
I think if the creation of the WLC had depowered the other corps', it would have been stated in BN 8, I really have no idea where you got that idea from.
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Your last sentence proves my point essentially. You feel that Kyle deserves to stand out, to be special, thus you look for different roles for him so he can do that. If your Kyle has always been above average point refers to just since the Corps was recreated, then you are correct. But so has Guy, John and Kilowog. Kyle as Ion I was amazing, probably the best Kyle has ever been. Ion II was essentially a much watered-down character too, at least as far as power went. If Kyle had stayed Ion II, that would have been enjoyable. I just don't see why Kyle always has to stand out so much to satisfy a certain % of Kyle fans. Kyle standing out to tell a good story, for a good reason? I'm all for that. Kyle standing out just to appease people who can't get over that he isn't the only GL any more? Not so much.
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I was over him being the only GL since Emerald Knights in issue #100-106 of Kyle's series. I looked forward to John doing something with the energy he got from Parallax. I just want Kyle above average because he's always been that way and now it's like every character has been dumbed down to build Hal up. Aside from Hal being given every possible decent plot point everybody else has only had 1 or 2 good moments, but that doesn't make them good characters under Geoff's 4th Reich. Hal wielded almost every ring out there and every Corps was introduced in HIS series. It's a slap in the face to the rest of the GLC.

But I'm done with this Hal vs Kyle conversation. I think Kyle would make a good white or blue Lantern. You don't. It's all good....

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I see some of your points, don't get me wrong. And to me, it wasn't really a Hal vs. Kyle debate in the truest sense, since I like both of them.

I don't have a problem if Kyle went blue or white actually. It is just that need to stand out that gets me going sometimes. LOL
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If I had to choose another color for Kyle to be I'd choose blue. Because he ressurrected the GL Corps, because he seemed to bring more hope to people.

But, personally, I kinda like him as a Green Lantern. That's who he was introduced as and that's who I'd like to keep him as. I don't really think he needs a special ring ... he just has to be written well, which is what attracted me to his charcter in the beginning. He's no longer the star of the GL show, but I think he's been treated well in GLC.
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Two pages of development per each issue of GLC just ain't doing it for me. And I'm getting bored with Gleason's art, it's not consistant enough. Guy got lucky getting Pasarin for his Emerald Warriors title.

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Old 04-03-2010, 11:40 PM   #18
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Kyle did reignite the Central Power Battery...kind like hope re-energizing a sun...

I do like them exploring the other heroes and GLs as other lanterns...it would be fun to see Kyle have both and see how he reacts to the powers.
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I like the possibility of Kyle possesing the only white battery. He was alone for so long and did so much for the Corps that it would only be fair to let him star in his own book. Geez the guy keep the dream alive for 10 years. Johns give him his reward now. Aw, but we know the Kyle hating Johns isn't gonna let that happen. Johns' ego will force him to create a new character as a white lantern to leave his legacy in comics.
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I like the possibility of Kyle possesing the only white battery. He was alone for so long and did so much for the Corps that it would only be fair to let him star in his own book. Geez the guy keep the dream alive for 10 years. Johns give him his reward now. Aw, but we know the Kyle hating Johns isn't gonna let that happen. Johns' ego will force him to create a new character as a white lantern to leave his legacy in comics.
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See Kyles my guy, hes the one I started reading when I got into comics..with that said I still like Hal but hes not "My" GL.
I think Hal works better with the corps and all that for the space cop stories..
part of what made Kyle such a great read for me was the learning curve...the being unique..hes a great GL, but if hes given the lone white ring for example he has a whole new learning curve, one that be great for the big space opera stories but also for the more character drivin earth ones...him connecting with people while controlling this awsome power...yest hes deep down the type to give it up. I find that dynamic interesting. and he did sorta raise his mom back to life with ion...
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i'd be more for seeing Kyle as a White Lantern than i would be anyone else at this point...

Hal's gonna be green, always green...
John... nah, don't see it somehow...
Guy... He just wouldn't give a crap and stick with the GLC nomatter what...

Kyle is the only one out of the four that i can actually see having the White Ring and sticking with it

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I liked Kyle better when he was dead for five minutes.
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I liked Kyle better when he was dead for five minutes.
Funny, I preferred Hal when he was dead for 10 years opposed to the cardboard cutout, nil personality job we've got currently

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