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Old 03-17-2011, 07:09 PM   #1
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Is anyone in the practice of getting over on stores?

Meaning buying something, using it for a bit and then returning it?

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Homer Simpson got caught red-handed by NBC News correspondent Chris Hansen on “The Simpsons.” Homer’s father, Abe Simpson, left each member of the Simpson clan $50 to spend on whatever they wanted. Homer got the idea to purchase a bunch of items he couldn’t afford and then return them the next day.

But when he tried to follow through on his plot, Hansen busted him on “To Catch a Credit Whore.”
I've seen DC toys that are part of the "Connect and Collect" Series on store pegs with the missing "C & C" parts. Appearently there are people buying the figure and returning without the C&C part.

And getting back to Homer Simpson, I think what he did in that episode is shady and unethical. It's like renting something and not paying any rental fee. Yes, you're getting over, but it's bad karma.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:24 PM   #2
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When I worked at sears I would here of people doing it with big items like tvs and shit during football season and for the superbowl especially.
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I did it once. Last Halloween, I dressed as Brock from Pokémon (I don't know of any pictures, but I may be able to find some). I didn't have the proper clothes, so I dropped by Wal-Mart to find an orange t-shirt and a green vest. While I bought the $5 orange shirt and never wore it again, the vest was around $30, and I would never wear it (it looked kind of like Marty McFly's vest from BTTF, but lamer). So I bought it, left the tags on, wore it for the night, and returned it the next day.
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When I worked at sears I would here of people doing it with big items like tvs and shit during football season and for the superbowl especially.

I'm curious. What did you think of people that did this?

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I did it once. Last Halloween, I dressed as Brock from Pokémon (I don't know of any pictures, but I may be able to find some). I didn't have the proper clothes, so I dropped by Wal-Mart to find an orange t-shirt and a green vest. While I bought the $5 orange shirt and never wore it again, the vest was around $30, and I would never wear it (it looked kind of like Marty McFly's vest from BTTF, but lamer). So I bought it, left the tags on, wore it for the night, and returned it the next day.
I see. Did you feel you did anything unethical?
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:33 PM   #5
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I see. Did you feel you did anything unethical?
eh, a bit, but it's Wal-Mart, the cesspool of unethical, so there's that.
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Ha hah ha. I like that you felt some ethical challenges.

However, if it wasn't Wal Mart would you do it?
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well, I think that if I went somewhere else, I'd find something a bit cheaper and/or more wearable. The question doesn't really work in that regard.
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It wasnt my commisions being affected so i didnt really care. Its kind of a dick thing to do.


I've mostly been of the "if i cant afford it, then i dont need it" frame of mind.
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In that regard no.

But, it's a more of a general sense of the question and personal ethics anyway.

Homer Simpson has long been a metaphor for the ills and unethical methords of American society.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:48 PM   #10
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Man, I could write a book on this kind of thing.

Back in the day, I used to go to Target and buy clearanced items and return them to TRU for Geoffrey dollars. It was an EASY way to make money. Por ejemplo, go to Target and buy clearanced toys for $3 and return them to TRU for $12. Use the Geoffrey dollars to buy video games (or systems) and sell them on eBay. "Mo money!" Because of me, they made it so there's a limt to returns per year without a receipt. I call it the "Sylent Rule."

Years ago, I worked with some guys that could get me free computer and printer accessories like Ink cartridges. They would order a shit load for me and I would return them to Target and get gift cards which I used for video games to sell. "MO MONEY!!" Shortly after, they also adopted the 'limiting returns without a receipt' rule... and NO ELECTRONICS returned without a receipt.

I play Yugioh and the most sought after cards are rare, expensive and hard to find. Using the advice of fellow players, I invested in a Gram pocket scale which can be used (for drugs and) to scale out the holographic cards. While not illegal, it's unethical. By doing this, I got the cards I needed to top a Regional tournament. "MO MONEY!!!"

That is all I will divulge.

Doing things like this is probably why I don't get good customer service, although I was always polite, well-mannered and never rude to anyone. I'm pretty sure I've already received my comeupance.
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It wasnt my commisions being affected so i didnt really care. Its kind of a dick thing to do.


I've mostly been of the "if i cant afford it, then i dont need it" frame of mind.
That's exactly my though. And I think it is a dick move as well. I use to work at Macy's and people would try to return stinky clothes all the time. I would talk to the people in the lingere department and they would tell me countless stories of used items trying to be returned.
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I play Yugioh and the most sought after cards are rare, expensive and hard to find. Using the advice of fellow players, I invested in a Gram pocket scale which can be used (for drugs and) to scale out the holographic cards. While not illegal, it's unethical. By doing this, I got the cards I needed to top a Regional tournament. "MO MONEY!!!"
I did this. I don't find this one as unethical as some others. I'm just using the system to my advantage. I have a scale, I can use it to do this. Why not? How is it different from some other methods buyers employ for other stuff? And hey, sometimes the cards I pulled sucked. I sold them for a profit. That's how the stupid system works in Yugioh
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That's exactly my though. And I think it is a dick move as well. I use to work at Macy's and people would try to return stinky clothes all the time. I would talk to the people in the lingere department and they would tell me countless stories of used items trying to be returned.
That's freaking nasty!

A friend of mine works at Costco and she told me that people buy HD TV's, pull the ol' switcharoo with their OLD set and return them.
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I did this. I don't find this one as unethical as some others. I'm just using the system to my advantage. I have a scale, I can use it to do this. Why not? How is it different from some other methods buyers employ for other stuff? And hey, sometimes the cards I pulled sucked. I sold them for a profit. That's how the stupid system works in Yugioh
I haven't scaled in years (since Light of Destruction) because I'd probably get bad Karma from it... and yeah, scaling is working the system since the game isn't balanced. Most think Yugioh is a kids game, but it's a game for people with money... and the people with the most expensive cards usually win.
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Something that happens at Macy's where folks would try and return some counterfeit Levi jeans with orange tags on the back pocket label.

One of the worse things I found on the sale floor while working at Macy's was a dirty diaper left under a pile of shirt during a Christmas sale.
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I haven't scaled in years (since Light of Destruction) because I'd probably get bad Karma from it... and yeah, scaling is working the system since the game isn't balanced. Most think Yugioh is a kids game, but it's a game for people with money... and the people with the most expensive cards usually win.
Doesn't like much of a fair game then. It sounds like the American legal system.
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I haven't scaled in years (since Light of Destruction) because I'd probably get bad Karma from it... and yeah, scaling is working the system since the game isn't balanced. Most think Yugioh is a kids game, but it's a game for people with money... and the people with the most expensive cards usually win.
I scaled back at Duelist Pack Aster (was that his name? The one with all the Destiny Heroes) I got the two rarest ones and immediately sold them for $60 a pop
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Is anyone in the practice of getting over on stores?

Meaning buying something, using it for a bit and then returning it?

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I've seen DC toys that are part of the "Connect and Collect" Series on store pegs with the missing "C & C" parts. Appearently there are people buying the figure and returning without the C&C part.

And getting back to Homer Simpson, I think what he did in that episode is shady and unethical. It's like renting something and not paying any rental fee. Yes, you're getting over, but it's bad karma.
Guilty as charged, as well ... But, haven't done it in a very long time ... I paid my penance for my sins though ... I worked 16+ years in retail management after the last time ...
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Had to think about this, but I used my buddies receipt to return my Xbox 360 to a Sam's Club. Had the RROD, took it back and actually made money off of it.
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Guilty as charged, as well ... But, haven't done it in a very long time ... I paid my penance for my sins though ... I worked 16+ years in retail management after the last time ...
yeah, that's karma.
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I scaled back at Duelist Pack Aster (was that his name? The one with all the Destiny Heroes) I got the two rarest ones and immediately sold them for $60 a pop
The last duelist pack I scaled was the one that had Card Trooper. I sold/traded those for $30 a pop.

The current Yugioh set (STON) is great for scaling. There are some high-dollar cards that could make you a good amount of cash.
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Doesn't like much of a fair game then. It sounds like the American legal system.
It's not really a fair game. The people with the most expensive cards normally win. In addition, if you know people, you can influence judges to rule in your favor during tournaments.
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In my experience, in the UK you can't return an item without a receipt,except for own-brand items.
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I don't remember ever doing this myself, but I new a couple of guys that would do this...all day!

They would start early in the day and go as long as they could. They would buy new Super Nintendo games at one store (at sale prices) and return them to another store for a larger refund. They did this for a while, I rode along with them on a few of their adventures...interesting.
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I can honestly say I have never done this the closest I've done is if I find a variant cover at a book store I'll check the net for values and see if it's worth picking up for once price to make a profit off someone looking for that variant.
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