The Gay Thread

[plastroncafe Alpha-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close plastroncafe]

It might help to drop the notion that gender is a binary.
That people are either Male or Female.
That they're Straight or Gay

Humans really aren't. We exist on a spectrum, not a binary.
Gender Expression, Gender Identity, Biological Sex, and Sexual Orientation are all different things, and it seems to me that you're lumping them all together.

Here, have a hopefully helpful image:



Jenner is a trans*woman, because Jenner says she's a woman, and we should take people at their word. It's proper to use feminine pronoun when talking about her because....that's what she prefers.

[Jeff Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Jeff]

That is so confusing.

[Mister Ed Horse of a Different Color Find all posts View Profile Close Mister Ed]

That is so confusing.

I think so, too. Fortunately, for the VAST majority of people all that stuff IS effectively binary, so that reduces the complexity, in practice, by some orders of magnitude.

I also think it is a bit odd to classify sexual orientation on the basis of "spiritual and emotional" attraction in addition to physical attraction. I have a hard time picturing a man being considered heterosexual because they are "spiritually attracted" to women, but NOT physically attracted to women. Whereas I have absolutely NO difficulty seeing somebody considered heterosexual based SOLELY on physical attraction. Ideally, for a healthy relationship, it is a package deal, and you are attracted to somebody on all levels, but as far as determining one's sexual orientation, it sure seems like the logical DETERMINING factor is physical attraction.

[plastroncafe Alpha-Lantern Find all posts View Profile Close plastroncafe]

I can see it being overwhelming, but it's really not all that confusing.
You're cis if your gender identity matches your biological sex.
(I feel like a woman, and was born with female parts, therefore I'm a cis woman.)

But even though I am female, and identify as a woman, my gender expression is far more androgynous. I rarely wear skirts, I don't wear make up, and I'm far more comfortable in Doc Marten's and Chuck Taylor sneakers than I am heels.

And since I'm sexually and romantically attracted to male and female bodies, I'm bisexual.

It's just a matter of looking at yourself and taking stock in things that are baseline for yourself.

And then trusting others to know themselves just as well.

[Jeff Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Jeff]

Archie Bunker, please save me.

[Trey Strain Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Trey Strain]

Ed, I don't know what he means when he says he's not gay but that he wants to be a woman.

[Agent Purple The Illustrated Man Find all posts View Profile Close Agent Purple]

When dry cleaners are assholes...

[Tazer That Evil, Yellow Bastiche Find all posts View Profile Close Tazer]

Yo.

When he says he's not gay, does he mean it like, "I'm not sexually interested in men", or like "I'm sexually interested in men, but that doesn't make me gay because I'm really a woman"?

Because if it is the former, he won't really care if there is any interest in him from men.

Ed, I don't know what he means when he says he's not gay but that he wants to be a woman.

Im pretty sure Bruce meant the former of wat Ed said; I dont think he'd have stayed w/Kims mom for as long as he did otherwise (altho thats not a guarantee by any means, look @ Meridith Baxter for example.)

personally, I think the dude is just like all those x-dressers who like wearing womens clothing BUT arent attracted to men....except he's going a bit further to "feel right".




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[Tazer That Evil, Yellow Bastiche Find all posts View Profile Close Tazer]

Yo.

When dry cleaners are assholes...

ok, thats pretty fucked up.......but I still cant help but to




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[Trey Strain Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Trey Strain]

If these women who I've donated to get pregnant, I'm going to stay out of it. I don't want any parental rights and I won't tell them what to do. But still, it'll feel funny having kids somewhere far off.

[TazzMission Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close TazzMission]

If these women who I've donated to get pregnant, I'm going to stay out of it. I don't want any parental rights and I won't tell them what to do. But still, it'll feel funny having kids somewhere far off.

look at it from a possitive point of view. at least your helping out a couple who will love and chairish the kid

i can never do do it not because of whats its for but i dont know shit on my dads side when it comes to health or even mental health so i wouldnt want to stick anybody with my seed knowing i dont know everything

[Trey Strain Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close Trey Strain]

If they didn't want kids badly they wouldn't be seeking a donor so I'm fine with that aspect of it. I have a sister with bipolar disorder but I don't think I carry that gene any more than anyone else does.

[Agent Purple The Illustrated Man Find all posts View Profile Close Agent Purple]

I am having trouble writing this because being gay is so distracting.


The gaydar is out of control!

[TazzMission Guardian of the Universe Find all posts View Profile Close TazzMission]

If they didn't want kids badly they wouldn't be seeking a donor so I'm fine with that aspect of it. I have a sister with bipolar disorder but I don't think I carry that gene any more than anyone else does.

yea its weird how genes work like that. for example i have asperger spectrum disorder a mild case to be exact. my brother and sister dont have so in the eyes of society there the normal ones. im just a nut

[Tazer That Evil, Yellow Bastiche Find all posts View Profile Close Tazer]

Yo.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/0...0O528720150520

Mother seeks a groom for her son in India's first gay marriage advert

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