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  • Originally posted by Black Manta View Post
    Next Major villain guess:

    - Killer Croc
    - Man Bat
    - The Ventriloquist / Scarface

    I highly doubt it though, but they're the ones I'd like to see him use.
    I actually read in an interview he was going to do Firefly or Killer Moth. Unless I read it wrong. Im pretty sure it was on newsarama or CBR.

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    • I'm pretty sure those guys were mentioned as a joke by Snyder.
      Villain Draft 3: Fourth Place Winner

      September 11, 2001; January 6, 2021; February 13, 2021

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      • Yeah I didnt know how to take that. We will see though. Man Bat or Croc would be cool with me.

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        • Originally posted by FrEaKjOkErXXX View Post
          That Smallville Bat suit looks awful.
          Originally posted by W.West View Post
          Extremely.
          That was my first reaction. Then I read that Crisscross was doing the art for this and it all made sense. He's not the best at redesigning characters. I'm trying to think why anybody would think those weird cheek guards were a good idea....

          My dog could eat a few of the most ridiculous armored Batman toys and shit a better costume for Batman than that.

          ~KL~

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          • I'm like 99.99% sure that the next villain will be The Joker.

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            • It's pretty cruel of DC to release that Batman Inc. preview this week when it doesn't come out till next week.

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              • Originally posted by Agent Purple View Post
                I'm pretty sure those guys were mentioned as a joke by Snyder.
                Originally posted by Hypo View Post
                I'm like 99.99% sure that the next villain will be The Joker.
                Yep and yep. He all but said the next arc would involve Batman's top foe and the fans' favorite. That's Joker. Plus, his story (no face and missing) is hanging.

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                • lol, what a shitty thing to do to Tony Daniel. The best and only interesting thing about his Detective run so far was that last page and not only was it not his idea but it won't even be played out in his book. Poor poor Tony.

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                  • Originally posted by W.West View Post
                    lol, what a shitty thing to do to Tony Daniel. The best and only interesting thing about his Detective run so far was that last page and not only was it not his idea but it won't even be played out in his book. Poor poor Tony.
                    Poor Tony, but I'd much rather Snyder or a different writer handled it. As much as I like his art If he wants to write I really wish he'd stick to writing back ups or other characters. He's not polished enough as a writer to be writing one of the top characters in the company.
                    Imagination, how can something so destructive create something so beautiful

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                    • Batman transcends good writing. People will buy Batman...FOREVER

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                      • Originally posted by W.West View Post
                        Batman transcends good writing. People will buy Batman...FOREVER
                        i.e. Batman: The Dark Knight

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                        • doesn't mean we shouldn't have decent writing just because it's batman
                          Imagination, how can something so destructive create something so beautiful

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                          • Preview: Earth One Batman by Geoff Johns and Gary Frank





                            I LOVE conspiracy theorists. They are like human versions of the cymbal clapping, dancing monkeys. No one takes them all that seriously and they get bored with them after about 10 minutes.

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                            • The Caped Crusader is being infused with a heavy dose of psychology beginning in Batman: The Dark Knight issue 10, the first for new writer Gregg Hurwitz as he teams with artist David Finch. The novelist will be peeking into the mind of Bruce Wayne, the man under the cowl, and also one of his classic foes, the Scarecrow.

                              Hurwitz took a new, noir-esque look at another Bat-villain in his recent DC miniseries Penguin: Pain and Prejudice, and he's doing similarly with Scarecrow, exploring where Jonathan Crane came from and what motivates this psychotic psychologist.

                              "I kept thinking about what kind of background would somebody have that would make him obsessed with fear? That's his primary focus," Hurwitz says. "I wanted to go all the way back to his childhood and to show a series of scenes that would account for that academic fascination with fear and the ways in which that could get off-kilter, surreal and insane."

                              Hurwitz's prescription, though, calls for plenty of two-fisted action to go with all the deep thoughts — issue 10 includes a two-page spread that is one of Hurwitz's favorite Finch-drawn pieces. "This is not people sitting around on psychologist couches," he says.

                              Available in comic shops and digitally Wednesday, the first chapter of the new story arc gives Batman and the Gotham City police a tough mystery to crack: A little girl has vanished from the street and returns seeming simply vacant, the latest in a rash of kids who have disappeared only to show back up with their minds seemingly wiped.

                              Dark Knight No. 10 also will flirt with the Scarecrow origin story, which hits its stride in issue 11 and then concludes in No. 12 with "some unbelievably dark and twisted and fun revelations," Hurwitz teases.

                              His Penguin miniseries was the only idea he had for a DC comic after crossing over from Marvel Comics, where he wrote Punisher MAX, Vengeance of the Moon Knight, Wolverine and other books . "It wasn't the usual first move into the Bat-verse as one might think," Hurwitz says, but he became enamored with the intense psychology of the characters.

                              Hurwitz found he could hook into Jonathan Crane (who first appeared in a 1941 issue of World's Finest Comics) the same way as he did the Penguin.

                              "There's such rich subtext to be had with a character who's obsessed with fear as a foil to Batman," he says. "Batman is obsessed with trying to eliminate any fear, trying to eliminate the vulnerable human emotions. That point/counterpoint for me was just perfect."

                              And Finch's cover for issue 10, which features the top half of Batman's face and the bottom half a gory nod to Scarecrow's stitched-up mask, symbolizes the yin/yang that is the Dark Knight. "It's like darkness mirroring a different kind of darkness," Hurwitz says.

                              The writer plans to dig into some pretty intense territory in this story line with Batman in particular.

                              He aims for readers to have a different understanding of the psychology underlying Bruce Wayne as a result of watching his parents gunned down in front of him as a child, the hero he's become and the kinds of choices he's decided to make for his life, "some of which maybe were necessary and some of which maybe were not."

                              The arc leads to a Dark Knight zero issue in September that focuses on a rebooted version of Joe Chill, the man who murdered Thomas and Martha Wayne and began Bruce's journey to donning the Batsuit. (Hurwitz also is tackling the Detective Comics zero issue the same month.)

                              "What makes Batman the most compelling pop-culture figure today is the fact that this is a kid who was traumatized and ultimately chose to try to defy and overcome human limitations in an effort to perfect and insulate himself from pain and grief," Hurwitz explains.

                              "It's an incredibly compelling personal narrative. There's so much emotion in it without having to make it maudlin and so much that's embedded in that — loss and grief and pain turned toward exceptional performance that he hopes will make him indomitable."

                              Hurwitz also is one of the regular Batman writers who has been tasked recently to bring fresh ideas to the hero's colorful cadre of villains. In addition to Hurwitz's reworking of Scarecrow and Penguin, Mr. Freeze received a new and tweaked origin in Batman and Talia al Ghul is the focal point of this week's Batman Incorporated.

                              Batman's going to be kicking in people's teeth long after Hurwitz is dead, he says, so the writer's focusing on adding aspects his own ideas to characters while also honoring the familiar aspects in the public consciousness.

                              "It's a bit of a high-wire act that you're doing because you don't want to take something so far away and be so enamored of your own reinvention that you're losing the archetypal underpinnings that make these characters and these rogues so great," says Hurwitz, whose new novel The Survivor is out Aug. 21.

                              The bad guys are getting their due, but Hurwitz has a lot of plans to get into what makes Batman tick, too, such as his relationship with intimacy and how that was affected by his childhood trauma.

                              "He's one of the biggest overachievers we've ever had if you think about it. You almost forget he doesn't have any super powers or abilities. He's just a guy," Hurwitz says. "But it's almost like Faustus — he's driven himself as far as he can within the range of human experience, and part of that is an avoidance technique almost. What comes with that is an ability to try to free yourself from all the pain that is inherent in mortality.

                              "How he views the world, how he views his responsibilities whether they're to (his son) Damian or someone he dates or the world, it's fueled by this dark drive and that drives the fear of what could happen if things go wrong again."

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                              • Oh man, an issue of Batman: The Dark Knight in which the writing isn't terrible? I'm excited.

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