The Hal and Arisia thing.

[Mister.Weirdo]

I never got it!

[redjirachi]

So that makes Bizarro an incestic pedophile or what?

This explains why everyone in Bizarro World is stupid.And chalk-skinned.Seriously,can you imagine "the talk" there?

Bizzaro kid-Were do babies come from pa?
Bizarro father-Well kiddo,when a bald mad scientist and a cloning vat love each other very much...

[Space Cop]

It's still time for this thread to drop out of sight.

No offense, but it's pretty easy to just not read it. I skip a lot of threads here because I'm either not interested or not conversant enough on the topic. If it really bothers you, stop clicking on threads called "The Hal and Arisia thing." That's my attitude to reality TV; it pisses me off so I don't watch it.

[Gauntlet101010]

Well... Yeah. That's only logical.

Well, then there's no talking to you.

I guess you feel the same way about Kryptonians, Daxamites, Rannians, Winathians, Titanians, Braalians, Thanagarians .... and every single other alien race in the DCU, right?

Well... Yeah. That's only logical.

[Gauntlet101010]

She's not human. You can't apply the same rules and guidelines to her development.

I guess you feel the same way about Kryptonians, Daxamites, Rannians, Winathians, Titanians, Braalians, Thanagarians .... and every single other alien race in the DCU, right?

This is comics where we're privy to a character's thoughts. I'm not assuming anything.

The retcon works only if you've never read her early adventures. Then you can kinda make the statements you've made and see it as no problem. I'm taking the retcon and applying it to her earlier adventures, when she actually was 14 Earth years old and was actually shown to develop along the same lines as humans. Doesn't fit so well.

She's not human. You can't apply the same rules and guidelines to her development.

[Gauntlet101010]

You're assuming that her race is mentally equivalent to Humans. That they mature mentally the same rate they mature physically, in the same ratio's that we do.

Perhaps their 14 year olds are more mature and mentally advanced than our 30 year olds.


But even assuming all of that, Arisia would have to be no more mentally slow than a 14 year old.

Either way, you're making a lot of assumptions.

This is comics where we're privy to a character's thoughts. I'm not assuming anything.

The retcon works only if you've never read her early adventures. Then you can kinda make the statements you've made and see it as no problem. I'm taking the retcon and applying it to her earlier adventures, when she actually was 14 Earth years old and was actually shown to develop along the same lines as humans. Doesn't fit so well.

[Trey Strain]

It's still time for this thread to drop out of sight.

To make your housefly analogy work, Arisia would have to be mentally slow.

You're assuming that her race is mentally equivalent to Humans. That they mature mentally the same rate they mature physically, in the same ratio's that we do.

Perhaps their 14 year olds are more mature and mentally advanced than our 30 year olds.


But even assuming all of that, Arisia would have to be no more mentally slow than a 14 year old.

Either way, you're making a lot of assumptions.

[redjirachi]

They should have just retconned Arisia's age to have always been 18. Graxians aging at a slow rate once they're adult?It has a biological purpose.Graxians aging at a slow rate even as kids?That makes no sense.Just imagine the puberty there.You'd have to wait DECADES for booze and porn

[Gauntlet101010]

Isn't that relative (and hence the point)? I mean if a housefly was intelligent they'd find it inconceivable how long it takes a human to mature.

Yeah, I still don't buy it.

Essentially it asks us to believe that a 14 year old could remain so mentally for approx. 18 years. That she'd love, travel, and live for 18 years and still be at the mental age of 14 by the end of it. And that's nothing to say for the years in between.

See it's not so much the physical aspect of it that bothers me as much as the mental aspect. You can't compare it to a housefly because she's shown to be as mentally quick as any Earthling. To make your housefly analogy work, Arisia would have to be mentally slow.

[Space Cop]

Since the retcon brought the issue up again after everyone had forgotten about it, I'd say it was a mistake. And poorly handled since it makes Arisia mature (emotionally) at an absurdly slow rate.

Isn't that relative (and hence the point)? I mean if a housefly was intelligent they'd find it inconceivable how long it takes a human to mature.

[Gauntlet101010]

Since the retcon brought the issue up again after everyone had forgotten about it, I'd say it was a mistake. And poorly handled since it makes Arisia mature (emotionally) at an absurdly slow rate.

Of course this topic has stopped being about the Hal/Arisia thing a long time ago and is now more about the most bizarre / disturbing relationships in comics in general. So far Bizarro takes the cake. But prove me wrong, internet. Prove me wrong.

[Lantern2814.20850]

honestly it wasn't because no one has shut up about it....
personally I don't give a $#!%. but that's me.
I came on around the time Hal was recruiting Brik in Vol. 3. so I came on after that whole mess was over and done with.